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Michael N. Chiriatev,
Chairman of the Saint Petersburg Branch of the National (Russian) Roerichs Committee, corresponding member of the International Academy of Ecology, Man and Nature Protection, Advisor to the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, member of the Board of Trustees of the International Roerich Memorial Trust in Kullu, India (St. Petersburg)
Evolutionary causes of the ongoing fire trials
A mind that seeks the proofs of Wisdom and Knowledge in outward appearance as material proofs is unworthy of being let in unto the grand secrets of the "Book of Holy Sophia." One who denies the Spirit and questions him on the ground of its material clothing a priori will never be able to. Try!
Written down by H.P. Blavatsky
In the XX century, there was a qualitative leap in the convergence of the modern physical picture of the world with ideas of Eastern philosophy – Vedanta, Buddhism, Taoism. The scientific understanding of reality began to change, especially thanks to quantum mechanics. This was also manifested in the assessment of the inclusion of the participant-observer's consciousness in the process of information and energy transformation of interrelated natural phenomena. A similar thing is observed in social relations.
The development of means of communication, methods of transmission, processing and storage of information, as well as the improvement of vehicles and the search for new energy sources are becoming increasingly important for modern civilization. Compared to the last century, the limitations of the space-time scales of our interactions have become very relative. Events in one part of the planet are rapidly being reflected in other parts of it. The dynamism of events reaches unprecedented speeds. What used to happen within centuries now happens within decades. Natural and social phenomena are increasingly showing their interdependence. This became obvious after the emergence of ecological violations and catastrophes that threaten life itself.
On the one hand, the development of sciences contributed to the integration of knowledge, on the other – to the self-targeted growth of human civilization, in which the excessive rationalization, pragmatization and lack of spirituality of the methods of scientific and technical approach to nature and society led to painful processes that destroy the multilevel hierarchical system of the bio-sphere and noosphere. Wars, epidemics, rising crime, international strife, environmental disasters and demographic tensions were the result of ignoring the basic laws of development. Technocratic expansion, especially recently, has divided the image of the integral world into specialized models.
The accumulation of knowledge has turned into an attempt to build puzzles, but the mosaic elements cannot be assembled into a single whole, because it is impossible to create a single picture of the world in man's mind. Physics builds its own picture, chemistry builds its own, biology builds its own. Philosophers have their own, often contradictory, constructions. Humanity is once again trying to build a Tower of Babel. And now we see how people are poisoned and suffer from the construction debris and dust of this collapsing tower.
Science is often busy creating various models based on hypotheses and theories, which also change over time. As a result of new discoveries, and a number of discoveries have important evolutionary significance, but not always, scientists are able to correctly understand and interpret them from spiritual positions. Further accumulation of models without their qualitative transformation becomes meaningless. People cannot in their minds assemble from these often contradictory puzzles, hypotheses, theories, mechanical and digital innovations, models of artificial intelligence and the like, a living, meaningful, adequate common space for noble and universally beneficial life activity.
The recommendations of a number of philosophers, experts, and politicians are often tendentious and manipulative. A previously unprecedented scale of the spread of lies and other phenomena corrupting souls has become a feature of our time. The meaning of evolution, which is acquired through the spiritual experience of people with the help of sensory perceptions, diminishes and the search for creative thought slips away and gets lost. The expansion of feelings with the help of devices and apparatuses depends on the breadth of a person's consciousness, their mastery of the art of thinking and self-control. If consciousness does not qualitatively change, then what a person artificially creates has these limitations, a crisis of meanings arises. The reason is that man does not sufficiently know himself as a microcosm, neither the spiritual interrelation of Cosmogenesis, Anthropogenesis and Theogenesis.
The "Secret Doctrine" of H.P. Blavatsky is the basis of Theosophy. The "Teaching of the Temple", "Agni Yoga" and the creative heritage of the Roerichs, the centuries-old wisdom of the East open up new ways for the knowledge of the inner man and the laws of spiritual cosmic Evolution. The perfection of human senses and mind is endless. It is achieved through the highest types of Yoga, purification of the shells of the inner man, especially the layers of the Kama principle, accumulations of spirit and further self-improvement under the guidance of a Teacher belonging to the Hierarchy of Light. Thus, a reaction to such processes of disintegration arises and develops into new holistic, cosmic in breadth, thoughts, images of the world.
The theological theory of the noospheric genesis of Teilhard de Chardin and the scientific teaching of academician V.I. Vernadsky about the biosphere and the noosphere are close in conceptual and philosophical positions to Buddhism and Advaita Vedanta, besides Vernadsky studied the works of Swami Vivekananda. The Library of the Academy of Sciences in St. Petersburg contains the collected works of Swami Vivekananda, which Vernadsky bought in London, with notes by the scientist. The main representatives of the bright thinkers of Russian cosmism – philosophers, scientists, artists, musicians, poets, religious figures who contributed to the restoration of a holistic spiritual picture of the world – also brought great evolutionary benefits. The peak of the phenomena of Russian cosmism was the work of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky and the Roerich family.
By expanding consciousness in a spiritual way, a person begins to understand better that directing a significant part of own creative energy to technocracy, to satisfy many middle-brow needs leads to the degradation of the person and life as a whole. Because of selfish intentions and ignorance, the number of crimes and military conflicts is increasing, the biosphere and ecology are suffering, artificial nutrition is being created, as well as synthetic medicine that is not always useful, health is deteriorating, the education system is degrading and scientific activity is becoming more and more applied, and a lot of money is being spent on weapons, poisons and other destructive means.
Artificial intelligence and the one-sided development of a number of other technologies limits the possibility of a person's choice and the perfection of own creative abilities outside of the specified spheres, the breadth of which depends on the cultural level of their creators and morals of those who govern social and state life. The old scientific and technocratic paradigm began to slow down the spiritual and evolutionary development of man himself and his creative abilities. No technocratic tricks can replace man. Helena Roerich wrote: "Not a single narrow specialist, regardless of how high his professional skill, can be considered a cultural leader. Culture is synthesis; culture understands and knows the foundations of life and creativeness because it is the cult, or worship, or reverence of creative fire, which is life. But who has realized the foundations of life"? (Letter dated 05.29.1931).
A truly and correctly understood culture should become a key priority for the development of society, this is the salvation of life itself on the planet. The higher must rule the lower. Knowledge and beauty represent the mind and heart of the people, it is they who should determine the path of evolutionary development. But now, in many parts of the world, animal needs and consumer gorge instincts are trying to control the mind and heart of the people. Economic development has become an end in itself. Economics and politics are trying to manage higher paths of development, spiritual life, art, science, education and upbringing. The basic meanings of life have been lost, the hierarchical principle of spiritual evolution has been violated.
Recent events in the world confirm the scale of the planetary crisis, which the Great Masters of mankind have long warned about. It should be noted that the biological pandemic associated externally with the coronavirus is of a deeper nature. An outstanding Russian researcher-cosmist, a student of K.E. Tsiolkovsky, A.L. Chizhevsky and a number of his contemporary followers – V.P. Kaznacheev, V.A. Sukharev, V.N. Yagodinsky and other reputable scientists – proved that epidemic cycles are associated with cosmic factors. Our great scientist academician V.I. Vernadsky also spoke about the powerful cosmic influence on the biosphere. The latest large-scale epidemic should also be considered in this regard.
The creation of the Theosophical Society 145 years ago, the publication of the "Mahatma Letters" and the "Secret Doctrine", the "Teaching of the Temple", the Teachings of Living Ethics have been preparing humanity for the realization of the inevitability of a global cyclical transition to a new level of evolutionary development of the 6th subrace of the Fifth root race of the Fourth planetary round. Through studying the Living Ethics, works of the Roerichs we know that the time has already come for humanity to transition to this New stage of development, which is associated with the end of Kali Yuga and the beginning of Satya Yuga. Waves of new energies of Cosmic Fire are coming to Earth. The Dense World, the Subtle World, and the Fiery World are getting closer to each other rapidly. The Earth's magnetic axis began to move rapidly towards Siberia. The climate is changing everywhere, natural disasters have intensified, but the consciousness of many people was not prepared for these most important dates in history.
The biological epidemic must be considered interconnected with the moral epidemic, which began much earlier, as well as with the psychic epidemic, which is now generating waves of insanity in different countries. Nicholas Roerich said that after the Armageddon of the Second World War, an Armageddon of Culture came. We are witnesses of how the meanings of Culture and its values were distorted and destroyed. The Roerich Pact and the cultural movement of the peoples of different countries have made this process much healthier. Nevertheless, ignorance and selfishness have led to serious losses and created many problems that cannot be dealt with by the old methods and under the guidance of people with an old consciousness that is far from understanding the saving role of Culture.
Helena Ivanovna Roerich wrote down on 04.09.1938: "You certainly know that We consider war to be the shame of mankind, but one situation that can be considered as worse is the decay of humanity. Armageddon should not be understood as only a physical battle. It is full of incalculable dangers, among which will be epidemics, but the most ruinous consequence will be psychic perversions. People will lose trust in one another, and will compete in doing evil. They will develop a persistent hatred of all except their own kind, and will sink into irresponsibility and depravity. To all these insanities will be added the most shameful – the intensified competition between male and female" ("Supramundane").
In these prophetic words of the Teaching, as in a number of its other texts, there is a warning about moral, psychic and bodily epidemics, which are interconnected, for they are caused by the intensified reflection of the actions of people by condensed Astral Light. The majority in the world is afraid of their crudest form and the authorities are taking external measures against the coronavirus epidemic, unaware, like many scientists and doctors, that it, largely influencing through the blood, has at its source a polluted astral component of the internal human, and blood serves as a physical upadhi for Kama, Prana and the astral body (Double) – Linga Sharira.
But the blood, being the carrier of the Kama principle, is saturated with Prana, which is represented by oxygen at the physical level. If Kama gets separated, then the blood clots and thrombosis occurs, which is observed in this epidemic. Red blood cells are associated with Fohatic energy, and the course of diseases also depends on its qualities. The variability of the states of the Subtle desire body – Kama, the insidiousness of the ancient relic nature of the astral, largely determine the mutating abilities of the coronavirus and many other features of its manifestations, an essential part of the substantial and energetic basis of which is associated with the properties of subtle matter, with the energies of thinking and desires and various other qualities of consciousness, as the underwater part of an iceberg is connected with and conditions its very small part visible above the surface of water.
Without knowledge of the organization of the inner man and an unbiased and spiritual study of the properties of psychic energy, it is impossible to fully investigate the nature of the carriers of the epidemic. To the greatest extent, the harmful thoughts and desires of people that have been accumulating for centuries and are karmically manifested by the coming evolutionary period are responsible for this fiery pandemic. Therefore, it is immunity that is higher in people with the first blood group, which belongs to the element of Fire. Of course, the spiritual state of a person mainly determines his or her protection.
The Teaching of Living Ethics states: "The causes of diseases lie in the root of the bond between the physical and astral worlds. The body reflects all the effects from affirmations taking place in all the strata and recesses of the Cosmos. It seems to be clear as to what an indissoluble correlation exists between Macrocosm and microcosm, but, except for the enlightened consciousnesses, this concept is not taken into consideration and does not advance scientific investigations further. If it were known how atmospheric pressure influences the organism, would one not strive for realization of this link, the power of which saturates each cell of life with its Fire? The bond between the bodies and the interaction of currents must be investigated, for it is impossible to determine precisely the condition of the organism and its ailments without establishing the fiery correspondence. Sensitive investigation of the spiritual and physical states will provide the possibility of discovering the fluids of dissolution." ("Fiery World. Part 3." § 294).
Tactica Adversa is operating on an unprecedented scale in the world. All negative processes that interfere with evolution are rapidly manifested. The dark forces destroy themselves, reaching the extremes of absurdity and madness in agony. The unification of the Forces of Light is growing, also thanks to the ongoing trials. These fiery waves of trials, including epidemics, are needed to purify and divide people according to the qualities of consciousness, to identify those who are capable of building a New world, a spiritual and ecological civilization on the basis of cultural priorities, and under the guidance of the Hierarchy of the Forces of Light at the next ascending stage of cosmic evolution.
Now we can reveal in a little more detail some of the fundamental points from what has been said.
It is no coincidence that in 1931, at the First International Conference of the Roerich Pact, which was held in Bruges, the Banner of Peace was consecrated in the Basilica of the Holy Blood. There is a crystal vessel – a vial, in which a sacred relic is kept – a part of the Blood of Christ. It was on this Blood that the consecration took place. Nicholas Roerich wrote: "The consecration of our Banner was not by chance to take place in the Cathedral of the Holy Blood, in the name of all the Martyr's Blood shed for the Beautiful Truth. Where so many lofty symbols unite, there arises a true stronghold." Roerich also wrote that he himself weaves "a new cordial connection with Bruges, with a precious Drop of Blood that creates and animates" (Nicholas Roerich. "To the city of Bruges").
There is a great meaning behind the act of consecrating the Banner of Peace on the Blood of Christ, which Nikolai Konstantinovich only hinted at. The Supreme Immortal Triad (Atma, Budhi, Manas; Father, Holy Spirit and Son; Consciousness, Matter, Energy) descends into the Quaternary through the purest bridge of Culture, comparable to the bridge of Antahkarana, through the Higher Manas, which is directly related to the Principle of Christ, connecting the Higher Ego with the lower ego. We recall that Fohat also connects Spirit and Matter in a similar way. It should be clarified that the fourth principle of Karma, correlated with the universal desire and attachment to incarnation, is a reflection of the Highest aspect of Eros, the generating power of the Divine Nature, the triumph of creative life.
The concept of Eros, which is explained by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, is consistent with the ideas of ancient Greek cosmogony, and not with later mythology. Like Fohat, it is a potential creative Power in the initial state, but in its manifestation "Fohat, running along the seven principles of Akasa, acts upon manifested substance or the One Element and by differentiating it into various centres of Energy, sets in motion the law of Cosmic Evolution, which, in obedience to the Ideation of the Universal Mind, brings into existence all the various states of being in the manifested Solar System… On the Cosmic [plane], it is present in the constructive power that carries out, in the formation of things ‒ from the planetary system down to the glow-worm and simple daisy ‒ the plan in the mind of nature, or in the Divine Thought, with regard to the development and growth of that special thing. He is, metaphysically, the objectivised thought of the gods; the “Word made flesh,” on a lower scale, and the messenger of Cosmic and human ideations: the active force in Universal Life. In his secondary aspect, Fohat is the Solar Energy, the electric vital fluid, and the preserving fourth principle, the animal Soul of Nature, so to say, or ‒ Electricity."
It is precisely this animal Soul of Nature that is now beginning to be purified by Spatial Fire, because certain time periods have come, cosmic conditions have developed and Worlds have begun their rapprochement.
It is in this state, on the one hand, Manas spiritualized by the Light of Budhi enters the Kama principle, forming Kama-Manas, and then the lower Manas, being the soul in the personality ‒ another Ray of the Higher Manas, clothed in Astral Light, already acts through the Kama Rupa, and begins its transformation there as much as a person in own consciousness can perceive high energies. But on the other side of this vital crossroads, which is still connected with its higher essence through the Antahkarana bridge, there is a part of consciousness that is immersed in certain lower animal layers of the Kama principle ‒ egoistic, instinctive, darkened, there it is captured by lunar desires and only the will of the animal man arises.
More precisely, in the Highest aspect, will and desire coincide – they are one, but in the human microcosm, desires often become instinctive and free and manifest themselves already as an organizing form of behavior of the animal soul of a person. Therefore, both Helena Petrovna and the Teachers talked about the necessity of cleansing personal desires, liberation from the material instincts of Kama.
Now the task of purifying thinking and desires is facing the whole of humanity and in a very tense form. Life itself will force you to do what humanity was too late to do. The purification of desires is primarily connected with the direction of thought to abstract categories, it is connected with an impersonal attitude to many material things, because it is material dependence and a sense of ownership that fetters a person's consciousness, makes a person a voluntary slave of these very desires. A person must overcome many spatial and temporal limitations associated with the external three-dimensional material world and its psychology, and this is achieved by internal self-discipline and self-organization, cultural creative improvement and following the Path of spiritual practice of genuine Higher Yogas. Therefore, a person should think more often about the Eternal, about the Infinite, as Svetoslav Roerich liked to repeat.
The essence of Fiery immunity, which is now very important to understand in connection with everything that is happening, is due to the fact that Fire rays can be called literally from every pore. And these Fiery rays, through a thought immersed in the heart, can be the most powerful transmutators. In general, many changes occur through transmutation. Negative phenomena are also based on transmutations, when all kinds of infections begin to work through the blood, and the dynamism of the desire principle itself, its connectedness with the astral, creates such conditions that its intermediary, the conductor to the physical plane, which we call coronavirus or other viruses, including psychic and social ones, begins to mutate very strongly and unpredictably.
The current situation is unusual and poorly controlled also because the three interconnected epidemics and other tests noted above have taken on a global scale, and this coincided with changes occurring literally at all levels of human activity, and with planetary changes in the biosphere.
The coronavirus epidemic, generated by people themselves, has become a new such test, but the real causes of waves of such epidemics, the mechanisms of their transmission are not fully understood even by specialists. The effects of subtle energy factors of influence caused by psychic processes, especially the actions of people's thoughts and desires, little-known cosmic phenomena, including intense spatial currents and the rapprochement of worlds, changes in atmospheric chemistry, accelerating shift of magnetic poles, disharmony, imbalance of elemental forces and other diverse fiery manifestations, is underestimated. The components of humoral regulation, especially blood and mucous membranes, suffer greatly from these factors affecting the state of psychic energy of people and influencing the changes of spatial currents. The components respond to the reaction of energy centers and energy currents traveling along the nerve pathways and etheric acupuncture meridians, reflex zones, the human barrier network and its auric regions.
The Teaching of Living Ethics has long warned: "Urusvati knows that, as the increasingly poisonous atmosphere attacks the tissues, inflammation of the mucous membranes has become the scourge of humanity. It is impossible to imagine how multiform are the symptoms of this sickness of our times. People attempt to relate these symptoms to previously-known types of disease; they do not understand the unique characteristics of this epidemic. Often the symptoms seem to be harmless, and physicians cannot determine the cause or the course of the illness. It is therefore important for physicians to study the human organism by all available scientific methods" ("Supramundane." § 435).
The teaching also says: "... It is wise to know that Armageddon is accompanied by epidemics. We cannot limit our awareness to known forms of illnesses, but must be ready to face the most complicated and unusual symptoms" ("Supramundane." § 435).
Of course, the main panacea here is an unbiased research and the wise use of psychic energy, but humanity is probably more than a century late in this, despite the warnings and instructions that were given from above.
Widespread world epidemics, including viral-bacterial ones, can occur not only because of leaks of the biological carrier of this or that disease from some laboratories, as some conspiracy theories now claim. There are actually many such laboratories, dozens in proximity to the borders of Russia, and a couple of hundred in the world. But one should also think about the fact that it is not by chance that certain malicious forms have been attracted to the consciousness of those who are engaged in this, who are developing harmful biological weapons in these laboratories.
After all, even if we assume, based on conspiracy theories, that it was not by chance that the coronavirus genie created in laboratories broke out, then the thought forms that the creators of this infection attracted with their flawed consciousness are also karmically not a random process that triggers boomerangs of retribution, because it has long been known that "Live by the sword, die by the sword."
The reasons not only for such disasters, but also for new good opportunities to overcome them are much deeper, they go beyond the traditional range of scientific concepts and those conspiracy theories that politicians, experts and many others discuss. Without knowledge of the laws of the Subtle World, without knowledge of the properties of psychic energy, it is impossible to develop a full-fledged healing vaccine, and antibodies will not be effective enough, because there will be constant carrier mutations, mimicry, and various hybrid forms of such epidemics will multiply.
In addition to the above, we note that one of the possible mechanisms of mutation and the emergence of new strains of microorganisms and viruses is associated with the energetic characteristics, cultural, ethnic and psychological uniqueness of different peoples, in which it is possible to identify the characteristic dominant manifestations of emotions and thinking, representing, as it were, different planes of being, principles, states of consciousness and organs of the internal collective human organism of the planet. Such mutations and the appearance of new strains are now very topical.
It is possible to develop vaccines feverishly every time, to make vaccinations, but it is more important to understand the more essential causes of such periodic and increasingly frequent disasters and to deal with them, and not with the consequences. However, all of our medicine, and not only it, mainly deals with consequences, not causes. People focus more on the obvious rather than the actual, on the transitory rather than the eternal, which is also mentioned more than once by the Teaching of Life.
Enlightened theosophists know that nature and man owe their origin to Higher spiritual creative forces, first of all such as Kumaras. Evolutionary processes continue in our time, mainly implementing programs of cosmic spiritual development under the guidance of the Forces of the Hierarchy of Light. But people's free will, their psychic energy at different stages can also have a beneficial or harmful effect on these processes.
"People are doing the right thing by thanking the Hierarchy for the abundance of earthly fruits brought by nature. Great Consciousnesses worked on it, and the forms of flowers, plants, and fruits were created consciously by them. Later, humanity gave birth to some undesirable forms with its negative thinking, but all the good and good was done by the Builders. And people acted fairly by thanking Them for taking care of them. Locusts, all kinds of pests, bacilli, pathogenic microbes and viruses were generated not by the Forces of Light, but by vile and malicious human thinking and vices" (Facets of Agni Yoga. 1971. § 503).
The processes that we have paid attention to are exacerbated by new cosmic factors and especially, as has been noted more than once, by the accelerated rapprochement of the Worlds – the dense one with the Subtle and even with the Fiery.
A lot of the fruits of scientific discoveries and the entire technological civilization associated with them have matured faster over the last century, they support new scientific and technical achievements that have given rise to "virtual reality" with "virtual worlds", but not only, because achievements in the field of nanotechnology and nanomaterials (and in a number of other materials science works, including superconductivity); the discovery of dark energy and dark matter; physical experiments with plasma; work related to cold nuclear fusion and low-energy nuclear reactions; new physico-chemical experiments with water; research in the field of altered states of consciousness; study of the interrelationships of consciousness with quantum-mechanical reality; research of fields and radiations of living organisms, including remote interactions; new methods of suggestive effects; development of methods of gas-discharge visualization based on the invention of the spouses Kirlian and the works of J. Jodko-Narkiewicz; remarkable research and inventions of N. Tesla and their development; search for sources of new types of energies, including those related to ether, such as etherodynamics, etc.; works in the field of Cosmic anthropoecology and parapsychology and many other studies indicate that the time has come for a scientific revolution, for a significant change in the worldview and ideas about Nature, Man, the Cosmos and Life itself, about the great importance of One-principle psychic energy, about the properties of the energy of Thought, about the existence of many invisible conscious and semi-conscious (including elemental) forces.
In the agony and struggle, a new spiritualized science is being born, with the development of which a qualitatively new spiritual and ecological civilization will be associated. It will be created with the energy of meanings and values of genuine Culture. Without the adoption of the fundamental cosmic laws of Karma and Reincarnation, a person will look accidentally abandoned in this world, doomed to conditional and ephemeral connections, ontologically lonely, lost due to the deprivation of the opportunity to realize the meaning-making reasons for his destiny and higher purpose, which are actually determined by the embodiment of spiritual individuality in each new personality by a combination of skandhas and karma.
In conclusion, it should be noted once again that the establishment of the priority of genuine Culture, the recognition of spiritual meanings and Laws of cosmic evolution, high Knowledge, which were substantiated in the Works of Great Teachers, in the creative heritage of H.P. Blavatsky and the Roerichs, other outstanding cosmist thinkers, in the "Teaching of the Temple", in the fiery speeches and articles of Swami Vivekananda and a number of heroes which are spiritually close in their worldview to them, are a panacea and salvation of the stumped humanity.
There is no other alternative for the world to develop and survive in the Fiery Epoch that is coming according to the laws of Cosmic Evolution, affirming the triumph of the creative, luminous Spirit. But in order to realize this good Path destined for the renewed humanity, there must be pure conductors of new luminous opportunities and creative heroes, carriers of Culture; for this purpose, people should be at the head of states, who under the guidance of the Hierarchy of the Forces of Light will be inspired and spiritualized by high Knowledge, capable of selflessly serving the Common Good in a disinterested heartfelt aspiration.
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Round table
of the IV International Theosophical Congress
"Secret Doctrine – Book of the Third Millennium"
from 22.11.2020
Participants:
- Shaboornikova Evgenia Mikhailovna
- Dylykova-Parfionovich Vilena Sanjeevna
- Yary Vladimir Vasilyevich
- Un Hak Hwang
- Chiryatiev Mikhail Nikolaevich
- Roshchupkin Sergey Pavlovich
- Harkin Georgy Georgievich.
- U. S. Pandey
- Bikalova Nadezhda Aleksandrovna
- Kolganov, Sergei Vitalievich
- Ritva Lappi
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: Dear friends, we continue the IV International Theosophical Congress, Scientific Symposium, Round Table "The Secret Doctrine -the Book of the third millennium" Today we are reviewing the 1st Stanza, the 3rd Shloka, the first volume of the Secret Doctrine. "There was no universal Mind, for there was no Ah-Hee to contain It" We have come to one of the main points of the Congress. Vilena Sanjeevna Dylykova-Parfionovich opens the Round table.
Vilena Sanjeevna: Dear colleagues, I will try to comment on the third Sloka of the Stanzas of the first section of the Cosmic evolution. Naturally, as a Tibetologist, I consider this position of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky from the point of view of the Tibetan material that I own. It starts: "There was no universal mind, for there were no heavenly beings to contain this mind. In the first version of “”the Later Version of the Brilliant Kalachakra Tantra” or the text of the brief edifying sayings of the second book, one can find a connection between the statement of the Secret Doctrine about the Universal Mind and the example from the Kalachakra Tantra, one hundred and seventy-six, woodcut two, sentence sixteen: "There was no creator at the creation of heaven." You see one thing in one. Further, it is interesting that it is not only in the Kalachakra Tantra, the same phase is present in the Rig Veda: "Nothing existed, neither the sky, nor the greatness of the vault, nor the earth." The following is known about the act of creation from the myths of ancient India: "In the beginning, there was nothing but primordial chaos. Then the waters came, which gave birth to fire and a golden egg with a golden embryo. This germ became Brahma, the creator of the Universe, the creator of time, and the progenitor of all living beings." I quote from the Rig Veda: "Great seer in the heights of heaven, you were timeless, unchangeable, [oh, thought] infinite, divine eternity." The three texts of the Kalachakra Tantra that are part of the Kanjur are written in an obscure and complex Tibetan archaic language, which experts call twilight. Difficulties encountered in translating texts are associated with non-compliance with the rules of grammar of the Tibetan language, and Tantric texts with their coding, as well as the ambiguity of Tibetan terms and the presence of specially developed mystical vocabulary. So in the first version of the second book of Kalachakra Tantra, the text that I will read to you is completely unclear in meaning. “Where seven great big lions (literally ravenous beasts), there other good and not good powerful, and having the power Brahmans were born. It’s the sentence from the Kalachakra. Knowing the keys used to decipher, you can guess that we are talking about the Seven Sages, the Rishis, forming the seven stars of the constellation Ursa Major. Or another sentence: "the cleaned washed earth, gave birth to the seed of the first main person or individual consisting of water and a dark waning sun.", woodcut fourth, one hundred and seventy-sixth page, the ninth sentence. The explanation lies in the fiery energy of the first black sun, not yet purified, very dark, which in union with water gives birth to a living being. We are talking about the origin of the planets, which in the very beginning were always very dark and gloomy, then passing through the process of purification, they became light and clearly visible. And here the term "Clear Light" is just mentioned which Evgenia Shaboornikova also mentioned in her report.
Regarding the authenticity of the planets of the constellations in the firmament, and such references as the legendary kingdom of Shambhala. In general, this was a problem that persisted to the present day when all Tibetologists assumed that Shambhala is located in different places, as well as the problem of the origin of Shambhala itself. As a result of studying this question, I came to the conclusion that Shambhala originated and existed in the Solar system along with its capital Kalapa.
Translated into Russian from Sanskrit, Shambhala means “the source of happiness”. As for Mount Meru, about which there is also a lot of speculation – Mount Meru is also located in the Solar System, in its very center, and has its counterpart on earth, which is called Mount Kailas.
That is, you understand, they built the correspondences of the Heavenly Bodies, and of everything that happens in the sky, and the birth of the Universe, they reflected it on the earthly plane, and in the great epics such as the Mahabharata and Ramayana. As a result, we have the solution of all numerical symbols, both in astronomical treatises and in the epic Mahabharata. Let's say, the great battle on the field of Kurukshetra took place and lasted for eighteen days. What is eighteen days, as a result of which, in general, Arjuna won. This is two times nine, that is, on the one hand, one planet consisting of nine, frankly speaking, constellations, and another planet, also consisting of nine constellations, fought in the firmament and as a result, one planet absorbed the other. So I understand the meaning of the heroic epic Mahabharata.
Further, Helena Petrovna is talking about the Eternal Mind, which is connected with Thought. Thought – in the Tibetan version, is designated by the Sanskrit word Bodhichitta, translated into Russian, Bodhichitta means “enlightened Thought”. The term Bodhichitta is associated with all Tibetan yoga, it has an esoteric character, extremely intimate, and is called the "Six Yogas of Naropa". These "Six Yogas of Naropa" are included in a slightly modified hidden form in the text of the Kalachakra Tantra.
Based on the meaning and disclosure of these six yogas, one yoga is distinguished, which is called "Yoga of Moving Consciousness". Yoga of moving consciousness, tells how life ends in the human body and how everything that was laid down in this living organism as a result of yoga practice, very complex and very dangerous, that happened as a result of contemplation and very complex meditative practices, the yogi experiences as a state of clear light, which was also discussed in the presentation of the Kalachakra Calendar. Clear light is the same term from "sir " in Tibetan. As a result, in the dying state, clear light yoga is in the foreground, it is concentrated with the yoga of the upper chakra, called "Ushnisha", and as a result of combining these yogas, a lightweight fluffy light-colored ball is formed.
This lightweight ball begins to run along the inner channel, the current in the body of the yogi, which is called the Avadhuti channel. As a result, if the yoga is done correctly, the yogi achieves an unprecedented result. In the crown of the head, a hole is opened, which is called the Brahma hole, and through this hole a light, fluffy ball denoting the yogi's consciousness leaves the yogi's body and rises into the air. If a yogi wants to continue the path of life, he can bring this ball back with his knowledge of meditative practices, and then he comes to life, and continues his life, but with full knowledge of this innermost yoga.
In addition, this yoga is reflected in the astral yogas, which are imprinted and associated with the astronomical treatise Kalachakra Tantra. The main treatises, which are the treatises of the Indian pandits which make up two hundred and twenty-six huge works of the second Buddhist canon, they are devoted mainly, as I was able to find out, exclusively to a treatise on astronomy, but only contain their full and detailed commentary on the missing Sanskrit texts related to the structure of the Universe, which is called the Milky Way Galaxy. Enlightened thought, in Tibetan, is translated as “the heart of the awakening mind”, it consists of Absolute Bodhichitta, and this Absolute Bodhichitta represents emptiness. I will not speak for a long time about Emptiness, which is the most basic philosophical theory of the hidden meaning of Kalachakra Tantra.
Of the twenty types of emptiness, sixteen types of it, in the form of sixteen goddesses, are placed in Ushnisha. What is Ushnisha? This is a growth on the crown of the Buddha, or a bunch of hair or a knot tied on the head of a yogi. The other seven types, along with the sixteen located in the crown of the head, are placed by adepts in seven chakras, that is, seven types of emptiness in seven chakras representing the planets in the body of a person practicing yoga.
So in the Heart of man a lunar disk appears included in the number of planets. It is in the Heart chakra itself during concentrated meditation. Just exactly the Heart, where both the mind and the enlightened thought are connected at the same time, by connecting two drops above the white heart, and under the heart – a red drop, and they form the very ball called clear light.
As a result, in the Kalachakra Mandala, the planets mentioned and the twelve types of emptiness symbolize the twelve signs of the Zodiac, which are included in one circle. In addition to this circle and the twelve types of emptiness, there is also a thirteenth type of emptiness, which is located in the constellation Ophiuchus, and through which the movement of the Sun passes. These thirteen kinds of emptiness, in the form of Goddesses in general are on the Buddha's head dwell there, and therefore thirteen zodiac signs represent Ushnisha – the crown, the habitat of the thirteen Goddesses, representing thirteen kinds of emptiness. The remaining seven are located in the seven planets with the center of the earth in a circle and in general in the Kalachakra Mandala contains twenty types of emptiness, which are also represented in the body of the yogi during the process of energy movement in the human body, which is a symbol of the Universe.
The number of planets and constellations is nine and twenty eight in the same amount are contained in the body of each person. And the triad: earth-man-space, says that man is given the main place, the connection between the Earth and the Cosmos. The planet Earth was mentioned long ago due to the fact that it was the most important in the cold, icy expanse of Space, since the Earth, as I have told you, contains a red-hot fireball inside itself. Therefore, the earth warms itself all the time, it is alive, and thus differs and stands out from all other lifeless planets, where stone and ice reign. Therefore, the search for a new planet similar to Earth, represent the main and fundamental task now, as Helena Ivanovna Roerich mentioned in her diaries and in her philosophical books that there exists a Planet that is as beautiful as our Earth.
And then the human civilization has the opportunity to find this planet and move, and the question of the disappearance of our planet will fade away. The disappearance of another planet is known from the Cosmologies of ancient India. Once there was the planet of a wonderful beauty, which flourished and was so rich gifted with nature, and all the resources of the animal world, and it was not inhabited by the Gods but by Asuras. And as a result of the fact that the Asuras bred on this wonderful planet, and trampled everything that was possible, this planet ceased to exist, and after the passage of four billion and a half, disappeared into outer space. If we talk about the fact how the ancient astronomers of India and Tibet consider the entire structure of the Universe, they think, it is not limited by our galaxy - the Milky Way, but goes further. Here are twenty-eight constellations and nine planets, representing only a small circle. In addition to this small circle, according to Tibetologists and Indologists, there is a middle circle, in addition to the middle circle, there is also the largest circle of planets, constellations.
This is a far-reaching picture of the creation of the universe and its full composition. What are all the other constellations, planets – their names are not so well known, but the number is the same, if Indian astronomers call the number eighty-eight, and the same number, eighty-eight, is approved by modern astronomers all over the world. The coincidence of numbers suggests that the ancients had a complete and real knowledge of the Universe. They limit this Universe to three thousand universes, three thousand in all. If we talk about whether this amount is correct, because our and foreign researchers say that the universe is infinite, it expands, increases and no restrictions are expected… You know, I've been thinking about this question, and after all I’ve understood.
Now, if mathematically these are numbers, then three thousand Universes are really true, because the same number, three thousand Universes, they find in the Microcosm, which is called the human body. Here we are talking about two inextricably linked areas of science. The first is astronomy, and the second, inseparable, integral part, is medicine. If we can decipher the four Vedas, which contain the encrypted ancient medicine of India, which was mastered by the Aryans, then perhaps we can decide how to completely cure these deadly diseases that destroy humanity, as well as wars. Therefore, I would like us to find those who want to continue to decipher the sacred texts on astronomy, astrology and medicine, in order to help in curing the diseases that the ancients associate with the nature of the existing planets. And if this problem is solved, then we will solve the problem of the immortality and longevity of human civilization. Thank you for your attention.
Evgenia Mikhailovna: Vilena Sanjeevna, thank you very much. Colleagues, who have comments, or may have questions about the layout of the third Sloka of the first Stanza, please. (no comments or questions)
With your permission, then there is such an idea, in addition to the Stanza Dzian itself, where Helena Petrovna writes: "There was no Universal Mind, because there was no Ah-Hi to contain it." Of course, we can read not only in the Theosophical Dictionary, but also in the Commentaries on the Secret Doctrine, that Ah-Hi is a Hierarchy of beings that concentrates in its first manifestation, like the Dhyan Cogans, these are Cosmic celestial beings. This seems to me a very important point, which denotes the description of this Universal Mind, which has not yet existed.
Helena Petrovna writes that the Mind is a set of states of consciousness, that is, there is some Consciousness with a capital letter, which is One, and there is a Set of its states. So here is this aggregate which is grouped under some definitives. Some definitives can be told or shown geometrically, so to speak. There is a set of states of consciousness, and there are only three definitive ones. The question is, how can these three have the whole set of consciousnesses? The first set is Thought, the second set is Will, and the third set is Feelings.
The combination of all this gives the explanation of the totality of the states of consciousness, Thought, Will, Feelings, which is Reason. If we look at the Planes of Existence, we can determine how this totality of the states of Consciousness manifests itself in its trinity.
We know that the first is the Thought, the Thought-Basis, and the Thought was the first movement of the Cosmos, and it was the Thought.
But without the Will, this Thought cannot manifest itself further, it has no movement, and the Senses give further differentiation to this totality of Consciousness.
There is such an idea: if there are three of them, and Helena Petrovna Blavatsky writes in her comments that Ah-Hi are the first, the second, the third level, we can say that the first is a reflection of the Absolute, the second is the First Manifested Logos, and the third is that which has a sevenfold manifestation. (draws according to the Planes of Being)
Then we can assume that the Hierarchy of Divine beings, Dhyan-Kogans as Ah-Hi, unites all the Planes of Existence. And if that's all the Planes of Existence, this Plane of the Spirit out of Forms we know as the Absolute, then its further reflection is the Plane of Gods, the Plane of the Spirit and the Plane of Prototypes, and all this is the unmanifested state of Consciousness, then there are lower planes, which have their manifestation through a particular Hierarchy.
Then Ah is the Breath-in, if we now utter this word - "Ah", physically we will inhale "Ah". This Breath-in goes "from outside to inside", that's the point. These three Planes we can concentrate on Inhaling, on the disappearance of Ah. They sighed. When a person breathes, there is a pause between inhaling and exhaling. If we are careful, this is not a simultaneous action, inhaled-exhaled, inhaled – exhaled, there is always a pause. This pause in the cosmic layout of symbolism is the Plane of Prototypes, Ah is the breath-in, the universe has shrunk, this is pralaya. Then the pause comes, when everything is going to the Plane of Prototypes and from this Plane of Prototypes, this second part – "Hi" starts to exhale. It exhales – Hi. Ah-Hi – and the whole Hierarchy of Divine Beings, like the Inhalation and Exhalation of construction, is here, on the Planes of Being, in geometric construction.
If you have noticed, then Ah-Hi is even written through a dash, Ah, dash, Hi, it is identical to the Planes of Being.
This is one of the ideas to see what they consist of, what is the totality of these consciousnesses, there is a Thought, there is a Will that manifests itself on the Plane of Reason and Creativity, and Helena Petrovna says that Ah-Hi are Dhyan-Kogans, and Dhyan Kogans, as we know, is a Single Hierarchy, it is simply called differently on different Planes of Being, and it has a Single manifestation in the Seven-ray Star, there is a reflection at once on Seven Planes of Being. And then there is all the subsequent phenomenon that goes in the scenario of the first, second, third Stanza and so on of the first volume of the Secret Doctrine. Here's the idea..
We have comments on the side where our partners and colleagues are gathered online ... Un Hak Hwang (South Korea), Ritva Lappi (Finland), Mikhail Nikolayevich Chiryatyev (St. Petersburg), Sergey Vitalievich Kolganov (Moscow), Mr. Pandi (India) it is very nice to see you all.
Well, how do you like this idea of representing AH-HI, which is the totality of all seven Planes of Existence, like Inhaling and Exhaling. We can say that the Breath is Pralaya, the Universal Mind is always there and it is in Pralaya, but it is not manifested, it is its potency, "HI" is the Exhalation or Manvantara, and it is manifested through the totality of divine beings or Hierarchies. Thus Manvantara begins. By the way, Helena Petrovna writes that at the dawn of Manvantara this manifestation begins, and the dawn of Manvantara it is illuminated by this white color, by the first blinding, shining seven-ray star. This plane is so high that the light is blinding, it is a shining white, and in its perspective, if we look at the seven-ray star, the seven-ray star has seven color correlations: orange, purple, red, yellow, blue, blue, green – all according to the planets (Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn)
And what's interesting, here's another idea: in essence these colors are hidden, but they have a color gradation, or manifestations, in its first manifestation at the dawn of the Manvantara we see and can recognize this shining light, this is a reflection of the Absolute, that is what Helena Petrovna even reminds us of, we can compare the universal Mind even with Absolute Mind, but we must bear in mind, that this is just a reflection of the Absolute Mind, because the Absolute Mind is always everywhere, it is unchangeable, he unspeakable and so on and so forth – no, no, no.
If anyone has any ideas yet, comments?
Un Hak Hwang: I've studied modern astronomy, I've studied constellations, I've done observations, I don't know the meaning of all the stars, of course. It is very important to understand that light represents the age of a star, but I do not know how to react to your idea, I need to study everything in more detail.
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: it's a good idea to start studying the Secret Doctrine. You know, yesterday our partner, colleague, our esteemed Sergey Alekseyevich Frantsuzoff, who has been presenting his reports for some years, finally bought two volumes of the Secret Doctrine yesterday. And when I saw him, I said, "Sergei Alekseevich, my God, that’s all, the Secret Doctrine is with you," and he is a Professor at St. Petersburg university, he said, “Yes." - And will you study? - He says, "The time has come."
You know, it's time to start learning the Secret Doctrine. Today we just talked with our colleagues about the fact that when we know, or even slightly approach this Knowledge, we can explain any effect, but only if we know the Cause. We have a comment from Ritva Lappi. Dear Ritva, please.
Ritva Lappi: Just a great presentation. I tried to think about it. You talked about what symbols we see. I think that meditation is very important, that is, we think about what is outside and inside, we need to remember that we are present now in this moment. And I think that Helena Petrovna understood, because she understood what space is. The same thing happens to us that happens to the macrocosm. And in Buddhist philosophy, the Mind is always connected to the space of the Cosmos, and the Cosmos is blue, and this color is very important. I don't know exactly how to say it, but different colors are very important. This is a small detail, but quite interesting. I already told you about it when I was in St. Petersburg.
Yes, red, blue and white. And usually red is the color, when you speak, there is white, which goes down below, and blue is the Dharmakaya. And these three colors are represented on your flag of Russia. Our flag has only two colors. We only have white and blue. This is a small little interesting detail.
I was reading the Secret Doctrine last week, and i thought that the texts are very deep. How can this race understand what the Cosmos is, because we only have certain feelings, but evolution continues, we develop and we may have more feelings, and then maybe we can understand more. I do not know, maybe you have already heard about it, maybe it is some new information, I do not remember exactly, but this is what I would like to say now. I didn't speak very briefly, it's just my thoughts. I thank you!
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: Dear Ritva, thank you very much. Yes, we have a comment, a speech, the head of the Moscow School of Theosophy, the president of the Lodge “Adamant”, Vladimir Vasilyevich Yaryi.
Vladimir Vasilyevich: I would like to once again bring you back to the practice of meditation. The fact is that we are here and are engaged, in fact, in meditation. Only someone sees more clearly the problems or thought that dissolves in our consciousness of space, according to the thought of the day. Helena Petrovna said that everything is energy. It's so easy to understand, and you don't have to go far. Wherever we turn, we always see only energies, and the totality of these energies is created and called life.
Is it difficult to understand? Very often I hear people say: "You speak abstractly, philosophically. Where will the specifics be", and everyone needs to be specific. This is the disease of humanity at this stage, and it is the transition from one state to another that the Mahatma Teaching calls us to, it calls us that it is time to move, and unite in the Spirit, meaning Consciousness and Intelligent cooperation.
This is also a concept that everyone seems to have heard, and everyone has read it, at least they are already talking about these aspects of the Teaching. But the problem is that we have not yet learned to think. And this also sounds concrete and clear in the Teaching. Look at how many things I have mentioned now, and we come to what was said, that light, when it differentiates, it becomes rougher, rougher, darker, darker, and even darker. And this is the darkness, this is the state in which our consciousness, habitual thinking, resides, which is literally called centripetal energy. This is the centripetal energy with which we are carried away and which in us is called habitual thinking in the Teaching. We need to move away from conventional thinking. And this is where the most important meditation begins.
Meditation begins when a person has reached the limit of the horror of perceiving his own darkness of consciousness, which is called ignorance. And with this, in fact, Buddha began his Teaching. In the same way, each person begins for himself from this very moment. And this transition point, which now shows us the Wheel of Time, we can catch in every moment of the current time, from seconds to centuries. i think it's not hard to do. You just have to assume that you don't know anything, and then these concepts and these numbers are infinite, which are counted and calculated as three hundred and eleven, zero forty and nine zeros, the fifteen-digit number of years of Mahakalpa, or Manvantara, (311 040 0000 000 000 years) they become digestible because we have no limit. When we don't know, we have lost the limit. The limit of what? The limit of understanding. our mind becomes free.
After all, this is what they try to achieve in all meditations, so that the Emptiness that is for logical thinking becomes Fullness for philosophical research, that is, for abstract Thinking. And then, when abstract thinking becomes a concrete factor in the perception of the world, this is the refinement of our Consciousness, and the expansion is only due to the fact that we do not know anything.
Imagine, it would seem that knowledge expands consciousness, but there must be a reason for knowing, and this reason is ignorance, which is the greatest force that motivates a person to accept knowledge, that is, the ability to learn. And meditation tells us that we are beginning to awaken our consciousness.
But the time in which we live now, and in which we have moved is a very important factor. And it just shows us that moment of the current flow of life, which we measure with the help of Kali – the Goddess of Time, with the help of her we are able to focus our attention on the current moment of timelessness of the Eternal Flow. And Helena Petrovna gives us the idea for this today: "The envious will never satisfy envy, and will never become great.". The very Thought tells us that the one who is envious is limited. So, in order to get rid of this limitation, humanity resorts to coming to a state of zeroing.
Today we have the day of the Yellow Snake. The Yellow Snake is located in the constellation of Aries, the first Fire. In theosophy, it is said that God is Fire, or the spiritual essence of fire. He is not the Fire itself but the spiritual Essence of Fire, not-scorching fire is His property. And He is at the very top of the Wheel of Time. The Snake is located at the central point of the five nidanas. The third, the first, is a Fire Hare, the second is an Earth Dragon, and the third is an Earth Snake. It concentrates in itself, as a point in a constellation concentrates the whole idea of this supreme constellation, the primordial fire. The mind is a symbol of the Snake, and the Element Earth is not the earth that a person is usually imagines. Earth is the ability to understand, it is a state of consciousness that is absolute in its transparency, in non-color, there is no color, light, nothing there is no aspect or category, it is colorless.
This ray of colorlessness is the void in which intelligent forces are able to operate, like a circle with a White Disk, has a line in it, and this line always has the ability to wrap itself around itself in its duration of movement, and thereby creating, as a Snake bites its tail, movement. That's exactly how the Yellow Snake bites the idea or the divine Thought, which has its own hissing movement. Here is this hissing movement, it already creates the potency of temporality or cyclicity. And another value for the Snake is the Cycle, the display of time, a very important aspect. The snake moves, and its head is always static, it does not stagger, but only the body bends. This is also characteristic of the energy of the Law of the Cosmic or Universal Law, which can be called Dharma, it is always intelligent, not fussy, and the body performs its transformations according to the need of this moment, this energy is very economically spent there, that is, this fohatic energy is inherent in movement, because movement as a sinusoid, shows itself rise-fall, rise-fall, rise-fall, civilizations rise, then fall in their development, collapse, move to another plane. And the Snake’s bending relay creates this Hierarchical beginning, that is, symbols and principles that are called Nidans, they reflect very deep semantic formulas that a person must individually resolve for himself.
There are names for this purpose here, in the Secret Doctrine by Helena Petrovna it is also told about Nidans, and in the book Ways of the Spirit by Helena Ivanovna Roerich, these Nidans are also laid out. In Tibetan literature, all of them are just translated from ancient Dzian manuscripts, translated into Russian, and we can now already accept this Knowledge, just the time has come! The time has come for this knowledge to flow out into the world. And it is unnecessary to think that we are not able to perceive it now, no, because this time indicates the need for this now for this leap of evolution, the transition to the world of consciousness.
Finally, this time has touched us as it once touched the Atlanteans, but the Teachers lived with them, and we are carriers of the Teacher's ray, that is, the fifth race must become monadic at last, and in other words Self-conscious, this will be the monadic side of life, this will be true creativity or love that transforms, connects, and unites the single humanity. .
A symbol of this humanity, we see in this seven-ray star, the nature of Dhyan-Kogans. Actually, each ray reflects the race of humanity. And the symbol of each race for our humanity of the fourth circle of the Earth is Space. This symbol is Space that the Muslims, so to speak, appropriated for themselves. This is the greatest symbol, it reflects the meaning of the Mother of the World, the Womb of the Universe. And Space itself is therefore displayed on the Wheel of Time in the form of the moon, you see here, the symbol of the moon or space, and the Sun is only an impulse that is at the top of the Wheel of Time, and from there the Thought is born, it is manifested by the fohatic ray. And this ray, continuing its movement from the World of Reason and Creativity, this Mind simply begins to act through Ah-Hi. Who are the Ah-Hi? Entities. Let's transfer all this to a person, and you will see that the person is this Ah-Hi.
As it was said by Vilena Sanjeevna, as above, so here is created. If we want to see mount Meru on the Wheel of Time, then we see it. Now, if you look closely, the six-pointed star indicates the sun, indicates this snow-white peak, this is mount Meru, or the Earth's mountain Kailas displays it, and here it is on Kalachakra, and it is called the Higher World. In the Teaching we are told: "Go through the World above", that is, go with pure Thought, go to the peaks, do not descend into the Lower world.
And the Lower or Earthly world on the Wheel of Time is indicated in the view of the lake dark lake, these are the Waters of Life in which we are born, we live, we bathe, we wash away, then flood, this water sustains life in us. It turns out that the Yellow Snake is today's day, and you have seen how much is possible to talk about these great secrets, Nidanas, principles, reasons that are the result of the Causeless Cause of everything. So the Causeless Cause of everything is our silence . In silence, we live without reason in this Causeless Cause, and when some understanding or clarity of some aspects of this one appears in us as a result of meditation, then at this moment we become creators, because we have a thought according to the image, this is what a person does not know how to do, this is the only problem.
It turns out that a person can not originate his thought alone, humanity is at such a stage. Only people of the fifth circle are able to have such opportunities, and they are embodied on Earth, there is the presence of such great souls and it was, and they are listed in the Teaching, and we, the people of the earth, can only present collectively a thought image and create a thought, in this way we can generate a thought. Therefore, it is necessary to study in a group.
Those who study separately will always be limited.
Therefore, groups, Lodges, Schools were always created, any direction was always organized. At least there must be three people, or two, and among them there is the third, that is, a Teacher in a subtle image.
See, there must be communication again, communication is happiness. If there is no communication, there is no happiness. Here is an example of what is happening now, that is, this Congress is happening, it is very significant, it is not as significant as we had in St. Petersburg, there was a different significance. There was a different quality and time. There was a different understanding of the need for this. Although everything was great there, but it was already so long ago, and now we are just learning to communicate.
And the most interesting thing is that we learn to communicate with different countries, with different states of consciousness. We don't need to go anywhere on purpose. We can now, and technology has allowed us, communicate like this online, and yet be on the Plane of consciousness.
After all, this is what moves us in the Spirit of communication, we have joy, we have happiness, even though we are blocked in apartments, but nevertheless we break out on the plane of consciousness we break out of that. Here is human nature, that is, all the conditions are complicated, there are no difficulties, because we only attract them by our own impotence, by the assumption that we cannot do something. We can everything, and this thought must be natural in us, like breathing, and then we become Ah-hi, carriers of these rays of the Dhyan-Kogan’s nature of man, or we become a cosmic man, at least reflecting it, at least partially. But collectively we are able to display the ray, the ray of space, the son of it, of this space, the Dhyan-Kogan, which is the violet ray. This is what we are able to display.
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: thank you very much. Mikhail Chiryatiev, Saint Petersburg. We are glad to see you. You are welcome to speak.
Mikhail Nikolaevich: First of all, many thanks to all the speakers, and always when Vladimir Vasilyevich speaks, there is a new impulse for mental creativity. And I am always very grateful to him. Sometimes I want to say one thing, when he speaks, spiral circles begin to appear immediately and a whole tree grows by associations. But we do not have time to spread out on this tree of associations, so I want to comment to some extent on what he said, and go back to the Sloka itself, then that it is probably not worth going away from this after all. So now, indeed, the magnetic properties and consonances of thought as in an orchestra are diverse, and we are already in another anthology completely alive, including thanks to these tests that I have already mentioned, these epidemics, conditionally. They still awaken the spirit, they have a great positive sense, they divide people according to the qualities of consciousness. And I agree with Vladimir Vasilyevich that a new quality of communication is really emerging here. And this Fourth Congress in general, as the number four, is to some extent a turning point. But you were right when you said that four, one, and seven are connected together. So right now there is such a transition for all of humanity, from the possibility of concrete, formalized, objective mental activity, which has tied us to the earth to a large extent, the transition to the abstract. And in his speech, Vladimir Vasilyevich just started with the fact that many people reproach the leaders of the Congress, and their reports, that they speak too abstractly. You know, it's a kind of training, a training of thought. Because when a certain energy bar of thought is set, others begin to catch up to it to the extent of their potential. And indeed, actually literally Ah-Hi means Dragons, or what Vladimir Vasilyevich said about the Snake, about the Snake as a symbol of Reason, about the fact that it moves in such sinusoidal spiral forms, and the energy itself, you can even say when space and time already arise, then there are these spiral movements of manifestations of various waves. Because time itself, even in the Greek sense, can be not only "Kronos", but also "kairos" it can be. And time itself has not only a wave forcing, but also intervals. Gaps, as it were, assimilation of the accumulated. And now the transition period. Both between Manvantaras and between cycles large or small, there are transitional periods. On the one hand, they assimilate and crystallize what has been accumulated, the consciousness of people, the experience of people, the whole of humanity as a whole. Even if humanity is not aware of its unity, on the other hand, they already contain a bud, a sprout, a future flower, a program of spiritual development.
And now this time has come together with an external, even if not realized by humanity, condition of this kind of isolation. Even in a pandemic, there is a limitation. But let's go back to our Sloka. The fact is that Ah-Hi also have several stages of manifestation. Of course, they represent these first three planes of manifestation, and they pass through all the planes, but only from the third plane does differentiation begin. and it is on the second plane that they first come to the stage of the form of education, the principle itself arises, the group arises, and on the third plane they already become Manasaputras, and then incarnation into human form is possible, because there are also dives and indeed, like Kumaras, as well as Ah-Hi, Dhyan-Kogans, they can pass through a human stage in one or another incarnation. But it is important to note here that there are different cycles of Manvantaras, and this is often confused. The Manvantara cycle, measured, as Vladimir Vasilyevich rightly said, by a fifteen-digit number, refers to the Solar system, and most of the Shlokas of the Secret Doctrine refer to this. But there are several Shlokas that relate already to the Universal manifestation, to the objectified Universe, to the Mother-Father. And there are many small Manvantars, about which Helena Petrovna Blavatsky also wrote. As for this symbol of a Snake biting its tail, this also refers to the fact that when a particular Manvantara is awakened, there are stages when the stages of incarnations begin. And what is interesting is that before incarnations in human form, Ah-Hi do not have free will, and people have free will, because Ah-Hi are actually Forces, are Rays, and it is difficult for us to imagine how a Ray can be a carrier of this or that consciousness. They are, as Helena Petrovna explains, conscious to the extent that they act within the limits of universal consciousness. But the consciousness of the Manasaputra in the third stage of incarnation, when the human form is already acquired, is completely different. Therefore, it is very difficult for us to imagine how the process of thinking can occur at all. And that it means not to be a formalized entity in our understanding, but to be the Rays of the Law, the conductors of the Law, it is connected precisely with the manifestation of Ah-Hi. In addition, it must be said that now there is a time when a new element appears, which humanity does not know, this element is connected with spatial thought, this aspect of Fire, which is connected with spatial thought, so thought begins to act very strongly because the worlds converge, and the subtle and fiery world interpenetrate with each other.
It is difficult for us to imagine this interpenetration, we try to distribute it in three-dimensional space and time, and this is completely wrong, because they are always present here and now simultaneously out of time, these worlds intersect, they are in each of us, and thought is the connecting factor of all spatial times. If, of course, this thought is spiritually organized and if this thought is supported by the enlightenment of Buddhi. Just now, humanity is entering the stage of testing the ability to assimilate the illumination of thought by the Buddhic plane. Therefore, it is very difficult, it burns, but it is an inevitable stage of the evolutionary spiritual cycle of ascent. But for this ascent, it is necessary that the thought becomes heartfelt.
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: Mikhail Nikolaevich, thank you very much. Very interesting addition. Of course, I heard a couple of nuances, we could stop on them... Vladimir Vasilyevich wants to say, let's give him this opportunity.
Vladimir Vasilyevich: I would like to say that when we speak of the ray as Ah-Hi, the carrier of Reason, then first of all these Ah-Hi or rays are manifested through a person as clarity. Why exactly, like clarity? Because the Dhyan-Kpgan’s nature reflects the World the Prototype of all future ideas. And this is the Plane of the Mind and Creativity due to the fact that Dhyan- Kpgan’s nature, manifests as Ah-Hi by the clarity of ideas, and there thereis no will, but the media of will is man, he is the synthesis of everything, of the entire Hierarchy. Therefore, according to this destiny of humanity, which is between heaven and earth, there exists the ability to reflect, to reflect reality. And now if the time is such that everything is concentrated in the transition period, where many cycles have converged, then one of them is called Satya-Yuga. It is in the great Kali-Yuga, the Satya-Yuga. It is now, in this period of time that humanity is given such an opportunity to become monadic, due to the fact that a person is able to catch and clearly reflect buddhi, as the emitter of this ray, which really becomes vahana or the carrier of intelligent power or wisdom.This is what we learn, this is actually the purpose of meditation.
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: Thank you very much. We have a comment. Sergey Pavlovich Raschupkin. You are welcome.
Sergey Pavlovich: I have a small comment, although I may say trivial things, I am not a great expert on the Secret Doctrine.
I really liked the idea of Yevgenia Mikhailovna on the account of the interpretation of Ah-Hi. This really explains everything quite simply, I do not touch on the multiplicity of this concept, but the fact that Ah-Hi is very similar to Pralaya and Manvantara, it's just like this, how the heart pricked. And why is Ah" in the beginning and then "Hi", that is, the beginning is Pralaya, and then Manvantara? What state does Pralaya begin with? It seemed that Pralaya was after Manvantara, it was clear to me. And so it came naturally, which is really described in the first Stanza of E.P.B. In the second Sloka, when Time did not exist, it rested in the infinite bowels of Duration, there is a special state that is not identical, unequal in principle with Pralaya and Manvantara. I do not know what this special state is, but it is a qualitatively different state.
And from it, for some reason, first decomposition comes, and then the creation of universes does, this is amazing. And one more thing, maybe also trivial things I will say that in Russian the mind is called by two words - " intelligence " and "Mind". As far as I know, there is no concept of this in English. There is such a wonderful writer, now living in Russia, Alekseyev Sergey Afanasyevich. He has a book called "Forty Lessons of Russian". The word "Mind "can be divided into three components:" ra"," z "and "mind". So "Mind" has always been understood in Russia – "Lit Ra", "Mind lit by Ra", divine, connected with the highest principles. And then it is clear that Elena Roerich translated the English word quite correctly, it turned out the Universal Mind. Thanks.
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: Thank you very much! About "why Pralaya in the beginning and then Manvantara". The beginning - there is no Pralaya, when the beginning, then it is Manvantara, and Pralaya has no beginning, that's the nuance. There is no complete Pralaya, there has never been one. Only there was and is and will be through Manvantaras, certain cycles, only partial Pralaya. There was nothing, and when there was a Beginning, it was Manvantara. And we cannot say that in the beginning Pralaya and then Manvantara. Pralaya – it was nothing, it was in potency, and this is the beginning of the Manvantara, when it all starts. Here's a terrific take on the “Mind”. Ra - as the Sun God, or this Light, descended in the third race and humanity became monadic, this monad began to manifest as a descent. Simulatively "z" (zet), if we draw the letter z, we will see as a mind connecting the top and bottom. "Mind" is connecting top and bottom, connecting beginning and end, day and night, cycle, and so on, and so on. because it is just in the clarity. Here is such a brilliant idea that Ah-Hi allow you to see or understand clearly, they can connect this Mind and Heart, and we become Intelligent. Then this ray will be able to touch us, then UNDERSTANDING comes.
Do you have any comments from Georgy Georgievich? You are welcome.
Georgy Georgievich: A humorous comment first. Here "Mind" can still be decomposed like this: Ra-zoom - (zoom) Here, I hope that today our system, which allows us to communicate, has become a little more sunny, but this is a joke.
And now some more philological comments about two words. First, the word Ah-Hi. I have tried to find it in both Sanskrit and Tibetan, there is no direct indication that it is a Sanskrit or Tibetan word. But for that in Sanskrit there is a similar word, it sounds like this: "Ahii", with a long "[i:]" at the end. This word it is found in the ninth book or as it is called "Mandala", the Ninth Mandala of the Rig Veda, this word is at least two and a half thousand years old, so it means-Serpent. This is just some addition to what Mikhail Nikolayevich Chiryatyev was talking about. There was an ancient Indian philologist, Yaska, who compiled a dictionary, a collection of words that are found in the Rig Veda, generally in Vedic texts. He just mentions this word "Ahii", that's what he said, there are not two "h", not "ah-hi", but just "ahii". This word means, Yaska translates it as - "heaven and earth", that is, here is such an interesting connection, heavenly and earthly. This little philological commentary on the word "Ahii," may add thoughts to what everyone was talking about. But it seems to me that this Universal Mind is probably more complicated. I mentioned in my report that the Universal Mind appears in the Book of Dzian as the word "Konchok". This is a word that occurs in classical Tibetan Buddhist texts, and it appears in different meanings in these texts, but all these meanings are very sublime, that is, it is an indescribable concept, very high philosophical. One of the meanings, this Jewel, in Sanskrit sounds like - "Ratna". There is such a thing as the" Three Jewels " - the first is the Buddha, the second is the Community, and the third is the Teaching of the Buddha. These three jewels are called - "triratna", that is, this is what in general is, well, let's say, the peak, the spiritual peak of buddhism, and the most valuable things for a person who has become on the buddhist path. The second meaning of the word "konchog" in tibetan, well, is supreme, the highest, supreme, a certain higher spiritual principle, that is, probably in Russian and English it does not convey what this word means in the tibetan language. And it is curious that when the Christian missionaries arrived in Tibet, and they began to tell the Tibetans about God, about the Highest Spiritual Principle of Christianity, they just took this word "konchog" to refer to the deity in Christianity. That is, we see that, the Tibetan word that Helena Petrovna Blavatsky translated the word Higher Mind, it is just something very high and even just the Universal Mind does not convey that high meaning, but of course, our all earthly words are quite limited.
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: Thank you very much!
Vilena Sanjeevna: I will go back to their system of interpretation. The Tibetan word "Konchog" means – the best, the highest and is associated with the main Tantric deity named "Dem-chog". In Sanskrit, this name sounds like "Samvara" or "Samvaara". As a result of the research, "Dem-chog" is equivalent to Buddha himself. When deciphering Buddha means the planet Mercury, which in translation into Russian means – Wise. You see, the Mind in the Tibetan language exists as Wisdom, which is equivalent to the Universal Mind.
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: Thank you very much. Mr. Pandey, do you have any comments on the third Sloka of the first Stanza?
U.S. Pandey: Intelligence is a key factor in evolution. As discussed earlier, the mind is a link between the upper and second worlds, it is such a connecting element, so the mind essentially reflects the Universal Mind, which in turn is an embodiment. This Universal Mind represents consciousness, individual consciousness, whether in our world or in spiritual practices. Thus, the Mind is a very important concept and the most key factor for any research, it creates a connection between people in the world. Only through the existence of reason can we understand what Maya is. And returning again to the concept of reason, it must be understood that it exists on various levels. Some teachings say that there are two levels, or, for example, in buddhist philosophy, this number is much higher, several hundred. Therefore, different levels of the existence of the mind are recognized by different sciences and even by psychology, science, religion. And when we talk about the mind, we should always specify what level is we are talking about. In addition, you need to understand that the mind itself unites the lower level of consciousness and the upper level of consciousness. And all this is achieved through meditation, through yoga, spiritual practices in order to make it cyclical, to complete this cycle, this chain. We must remember that this is what helps us to embody ourselves to the best extent, so to speak. That's what I wanted to say.
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: Mr. Pandi, thank you very much. Mikhail Nikolaevich, you wanted to say a comment, please.
Mikhail Nikolaevich: Just to add a second to what George said. He could not find the transcription of Ah-Hi in the Tibetan and Sanskrit texts. We need to see what the word "Ah-ti" means. "Ah-ti" is used in the Edas, it is a Scandinavian root, and it means – Dragon. So take a closer look at the Younger and Older Edda, and then the explanation will come. By the way, I want to remind you that Nicholas Roerich, even when he was in Mongolia, when they were doing Buddhist things, he had associations with Scandinavia, with Meso-America, the synthesis is so cross-cultural, it is connected with some deep roots, probably connected with the migrations of the remnants of the Atlanteans. Here we must look for the nature of these words. Thanks.
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: Mikhail Nikolaevich, thank you very much. There was a very interesting comment about Ah-ti, and about what the translation from the Scandinavian means Dragon. We know that Helena Petrovna Blavatsky speaks of the first Seven-Ray Star as a manifestation of the Dhyan-Kogans, the Flaming Dragon of Wisdom, then the translation is clear and understanding comes.
Regarding Mr. Pandey's reasoning, I would like to add that the Mind that we speak about can connect heaven, earth, the manifested, the unmanifested, and so on. But we know that there are seven bodies, or principles of man, which Helena Petrovna has defined quite clearly, the Lower manas, the Higher Manas, and so on, and what connects them. And it is the navel, or synthesis, that connects the connecting link, which is the plate of the Mind, which is the Heart, the sixth principle. Still such thought came, concerning these words, after all there are three stages of development of consciousness.
First, a person learns to reason, and his mind works. The understanding, we know, determines the lowest principle of the nature of the human mind.
Then a person learns to reflect, that is, he takes different thoughts and he can connect them, he reflects.
And the third stage, the highest, is when a person learns to think.
So, to reason, reflect and think, is the first, second and third level of manifestation of Ah-Hi, the Dragon of Wisdom. Here is an addition.
If you don't have any comments, I would like to share such an idea with my colleagues. You see, when Helena Petrovna says that Ah-Hi are guides, and some of you have just quoted quite a lot, that they are the Snakes of Wisdom, they are guides of the Universal Mind, and so on. But there is something that suggests that before the guides, before the Ah-Hi became the Hi, the exhalation, there was one nuance. Let's listen to Helena Petrovna's quote, and I'll tell you my idea, and you tell me whether I'm right or not. "Ah-Hi, the Hierarchy of Spiritual Beings through whom the Universal Mind manifests, the Dhyan-Kogans, the vehicles of Universal Thought and Will, who give and establish in nature its laws" This is the expression of Ah-Hi, who establish in nature its laws, the note is, that first Ah-Hi first create a suitable basis, which only then becomes a guide. What is the basis? Not to delegate your laws to Nature, but ITS laws. It changes everything. That is, the hierarchy of celestial beings, the Dhyan-Kogans were first shown to be the basis to reveal in nature its own laws, and not to impose their own. Great reverence was at first, and only later in the matter of space of a certain plane, these same Ah-Hi, began to manifest it, they act according to the laws imposed on them by Higher Powers. What does it mean? ... I'm asking you to focus. This means that at first this Reverence was shown to bring out in nature its laws, what? The same laws that were imposed on the Dhyan-Kogan by Higher Powers. In the first manifestation, the Higher Powers asked permission from the lower ones, that's what it means. Here is such a nuance, and it even changes the Hierarchical view in general, that in the beginning the Higher Forces asked this base of the lower one, can we even manifest here at all? The lower base was ready, that is, these rays Dhyan-Cognicase, which gave first a blinding light, they have prepared the matter for manifestation. I have an idea how it was. (draws) The seven-ray star was on this plane, it gave the very basis, it asked, then, we all know, that Dhyan-Kogans as the guides began to fulfill the Will of the Highest to our densest plane.
So it is not for nothing that the Dhyan-Kogans are symbolized by a Seven-Ray star. This is the first glimpse of the basis of resolution, this great manifestation of the highest hierarchy, when the Higher asked the lower, and the lower resolved and the Higher began to manifest, how does it appear? The Seven-Ray star is not just drawn without breaking off in one movement. Because this is a Single Ray, there are no seven rays, they are here only in potentiality, this is the basis, a single ray in its seven radiations of potentiality, still unmanifested, this is the light-bearing matter, the very one that appears. as Elena Ivanovna Roerich writes, "the Canvas of the Mother of the World" on which only then there will be a pattern. She showed this Reverence, she accepted this shining light. And these were the rays of the seven main planets: the Sun, the Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus and Saturn. These are seven rays that lie at the base of the Kalachakra, which define the twelve Nidanas, the seven rays and the five elements (7+5=12) are a single movement laid down within. So this Logos, which is the first manifestation, is essentially threefold. It is threefold in its essence, because this first trinity gave the sevenfold, and manifested itself here, in the one ray.
Here the idea is about "establishing the nature of its laws." It seemed to me absolutely amazing, not their own laws Dhyan-Kogan began to establish, but its laws, the ones of the nature that potentially had to manifest. We have a comment from Vladimir Vasilyevich. You are welcome
Vladimir Vasilyevich: Now you have touched the most basic thing for the manifestation of individuality. This is how individuality awakens, because people, as the Teaching says, are afraid that their individuality will be violated, but in fact they simply do not have it yet. So this is just saying that until reverence is shown, consciousness cannot manifest itself as an aspect of individuality. It can't manifest itself, it can't begin to improve, develop, evolve, that's where it all starts. And this state, I would say, is the cause, the Causeless Cause, this is a very important point. And if we meditate on concepts, then we come to the nature of things, because the very nature of things is causeless, but it is causeless not in the sense that it has no cause, but it simply acts in us by spontaneity, you see, by the spontaneity of the highest law of Dharma, there is an impulse, and therefore causeless is the impulse itself. It is causeless, unconscious, it is so considered. And in human nature it manifests itself as an instinct, you see, but not a low instinct, but an instinct of the spirit, that's what we have to come to. Instinctive is a higher order the movement of the spirit, or the burning of this fire of the spirit or grain of the spirit, which in itself contains the essence of the essence. This is very important, and then the causeless cause of everything in us is a natural urge, it is a consequence of accumulation, accumulation itself and it acts from the Chalice in the form of reverence. Like everything in Space, like in man.
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: Thank you very much. So, the Universal Mind that exists always both in Pralaya and in Manvantara is unchangeable, and the Ah-Hi have this property of making the noumenon as a phenomenon through a suitable basis or of becoming vehicles. Here it is so simply and vividly explained, the very task of Ah-Hi and who they are. Indeed, the Flaming Dragons of Wisdom. Nadezhda Alexandrovna, if you have any comments, please.
Nadezhda Alexandrovna: Dear friends, you know, in fact, I learned a lot of new things for myself, but I would like to add and present to your court here, the twentieth lesson of the Teachings of the Temple, which, as you remember, the Teacher Hilarion gave to students in the Temple of Humanity more than a hundred years ago, and here in Halsion many such works were published that many more people will have to study. So there is such a lesson in the first volume, the twentieth one, it is called "Control over the vital forces." It begins with a very, very deep phrase that goes like this: "Ultimately, all Being is a vibration and all themes… and so on and so forth.., developed, and appeared, just at different speeds of this vibration." And that's what it says, including about the Trinity, our favorite topic that sounded yesterday and today. And that greatly sounded in the report of Yevgeniya Mikhaylovna Shaboornikova. Now, it says, "The great creative force, defined by occultists as the vital principle, in its highest aspect is Trinity consisting of Desire, Will, and Mind. Desire is the guiding force of the Universe, in its highest aspect it is Love", that's what Vladimir Vasilyevich has already said here, "Will is the driving force that accelerates the energy contained in the matrix, and the basic principle of Sound, Mind-Light, that is, there is Mind dash Light, generating force and at the same time it’s a temporary matrix in which Desire and Will merge." And in general, there is so much still unreleased in the Teachinggs of the Temple on this topic. And I thank you for the new thoughts that have emerged as a result of this discussion. Thanks.
Eevgenia Mikhailovna: Thank you very much. Sergey Vitalievich, please.
Sergey Vitalievich: Yes, I would like to comment on the discussion a little, and these comments are related to such a wonderful work of the Rosicrucian Marx Handel, this work is called "The Cosmological Concept of Rosicrucian". In this work, Max Handel asks seriously, why a period of silence or a period of Pralaya is necessary. From the point of view of Max Handel, Pralaya is necessary in order to transform all the experience that was accumulated during the Manvantara period. Why? Because experience is primarily a manifestation of the free will of the beings who lived during this period. And as a result, we have such a phenomenon as epiginesis, or you can still call this phenomenon in another word, preformism, that is, it is free will, which consists in the freedom to start something completely new. And here is a brand new, in the period of the Manvantara appears, then this brand new is included in the overall picture, and the next stage of manifestation is when on the basis of the experience of beings inferior indeed the Supreme beings shape a better, more beautiful and more good environment, that is, it turns out that indeed the Will of lower beings is taken into account by the Higher, and this is what happens in the period of Pralaya.
Evgenia Mikhailovna: Thank you very much, Sergey Vitalievich. A fine addition, and there is some statement of this thought. Ritva Lappi, please.
Ritva Lappi: I just want to say something about communication, it's very important. I think there is something in the theosophical society today that we really understand what karma is, but I mean really understand. If you understand it at a deep level, then we need to study absolutely everything. And I think that's the most important thing today, because it's about how we work together, and then we can all be saved together. I thought today and yesterday, and I want to ask, this is one of my long-standing thoughts. But when we say time, and how we use time. There are eighty-four thousand and then we have sixty seconds in a minute. We have then three thousand six hundred seconds, and then eight hundred and sixty thousand seconds. But I think you know what I mean, we have twenty-four hours, and at every moment we have it. And at every moment we really have all these gifts, if we really understand it. And every time it saves our karma, once we learn, then we can learn, and we can spread this information. And this is actually a very important task, this is a very important aspect of theosophy. We don't need dogmas, we need a very deep understanding, and this is just an example of a Buddhist idea. And in fact, the study of the Secret Doctrine is a very difficult task, perhaps it is clearer to you, it is clearer to you, but I thought about it for a long time, I tried to understand, I tried to understand Buddhist ideas. I would like to say this, if someone just understands that we have these minutes, these seconds, we have eighty-four thousand, maybe someone just understands, maybe you want to tell. I also want to thank the translators, you are just beautiful, you have beautiful voices, it's just beautiful to listen to you for two days. And if you can translate, if you can translate my Englishб you're just fine. Thank you very much. That's all I wanted to say,
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: Ritva, dear, thank you very much. Mikhail Nikolaevich, please
Mikhail Nikolaevich: Yes. Dear friends, you know, finally I want to say that all the ongoing trials of humanity, they are of course connected with the new cosmic spatial environment, that new fire rays are coming to the earth, and that the worlds are coming closer, that the planet itself is changing, a new earth and a new sky are being born. But I want to say that we are already living in the aura of the Great Parish. And the Great Parish, the very energy of the Great Parish also generates all the trials. On the one hand, the fire purified the lower strata of the subtle world, the principle of Kama is cleared, and there is a lot of disease processes because of this, due to the fact that just a mass obsession does happen, that was long ago predicted, are these epidemics are of psychic nature. This process is associated with purification and the inevitable evolutionary processes. And I would like to finally remind you of the Bhagavat Gita, which is also connected with the Great Parish. In the fourth book of Bhagavat Gita in the fourth Chapter it is said: "This Imperishable yoga I declared to Vivasvan; Vivasvan told Manu, Manu told Ikshvaku. Thus the Raja-Rishis learned it from one another; but after a long time this yoga was lost. It is this ancient yoga that I now proclaim to you, For you are my friend and bhakta; it is the highest mystery. Arjuna said: You were born later, Vivaswant was born earlier, how can I understand that you informed about it initially? Sri Bhagavan said: I have many past births, and you also, Arjuna, I know them all, but you do not know your own, ascetic. I am the Atman, the Unborn, the Imperishable, I am the Master of beings, and yet, being above my nature, iIam born by my own Maya whenever the Dharma weakens and lawlessness prevails. iIcreate myself, Bharata, for the salvation of the righteous, for the destruction of the wicked, for the establishment of the Law, from age to age I am born."
And I want to remind you that Mahatma Morya belongs to the genus of Ikshvaku, who according to the Vishnu Purana and Matsya Purana is destined after Kali Yuga to restore the Kshatriya solar dynasty, Kshatriyas of ancient times, they were the ancient caste which belonged to Krishna. The power of the coming Kalki Avatar will be spiritual. Finally I’d like to quote the Gospel by John, that in the spirit people are one with their ancestor and follow his path, says this Gospel. Jesus says to him, "Iam the way of true life, no one comes to the Father but through Me. The world will not see Me, but you will see Me, for I live, and so will you. On that day, you will learn that "I am in the Father, you are in Me, and I am in you". With this great unity, this great formula, I want to greet everyone, and welcome our future Fifth Congress. Thanks.
Yevgenia Mikhailovna: Thank you very much. A great addition. Dear Ritva, and you spoke very soulfully. And again, we touched on this global theme of space and time, and yet I think that we will devote the fifth Congress, which will be held in Sochi in 2021, to these topics. We will analyze the fourth Sloka then, and I think that this will be very relevant, and those questions that you asked yourself, Ritva, they can find their manifestation in such a group research work. Ritva Lappi noticed how our translators translate. And when you, Ritva, were translated, I wanted to take the floor and say thank you to our seven translators who are on the air. They are so imbued with this idea, they are so inspired to translate all your words, that it turns out a completely poetic narrative. Many thanks to the translators – Yulia Nikitina, Anna Dove, Olga Isaeva, Tatiana Arzamasova, Maria Ponomareva, Victoria Romanenkova, Yegor Turley. Thank you so much for your inspiration, for your translation, you tried to convey these great symbols, such a subtle and wise sound of the word, through your emotion, and this was felt in every moment of your explanation.
Dear friends, and so, let's sum up. Sloka three, Stanza one.
Note that according to the Planes of Being, Stanza one reflects the identity of the first unmanifested Plane, that is, we are still in the Absolute. Sloka three directs us to the fact that we are on the third plane – the Plane of Mahat. This is the very Mind that can be manifested. One plus three is four, so we are in the form or manifestation of that fourth plane that descends, there is such a word by Helena Petrovna, it descends to the underlying plane and shines.
At this moment, when all this is in potency, there was no Universal Mind, because there was still the Duration of Pralaya, so there was no Ah-Hi, the basis through which it could manifest. And most importantly, there was no Ah-Hee to accommodate this Universal Mind. Only with accommodation could it be manifested, and only with accommodation will it be manifested and will continue, when differentiation begins and of course there is a whole mystery and cosmogony, and an explanation of the Hierarchy of Celestial beings, and there are many of them.
Thank you very much, dear delegates of the Congress. Research Group, thank you very much for your work at the Round Table. Theosophical knowledge enters the world confidently, having a scientific basis, it has the ability to answer any question, explain any phenomenon from a new point of view. This knowledge is given in the Secret Doctrine, which Helena Petrovna dedicated to all true theosophists. We live in a time when the relevance of studying and discussing the Stanzas of the Secret Doctrine by Blavatsky is obvious. Exploring the scientific fundamental work The Secret Doctrine, we affirm the name of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, and recognize Her invaluable contribution to the development of world science and culture. Today, each of the participants contributed to the recognition of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky. And thank you all very much!
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Oleg Fedorovich Martynov (born 1937) is a famous Soviet, Russian cinematographer, shot about 40 feature films and television series, winner of awards for best cinematography, author of films about H.P. Blavatsky and the Roerich family, director, traveler.
The founder of the Museum-Institute of the Roerich Family Lyudmila Stepanovna Mitusova in her book of memoirs "About the past and the fate of loved ones" told: "A wonderful cinematographer and a person. Together with him we read the Teaching of Living Ethics. Knows the right direction perfectly well." He was at the origins of the Roerich movement in Russia; he was part of the team of the creators of the first film about Nicholas Roerich in the USSR "Nicholas Roerich" (1976, Kievnauchfilm). "The filming of a film about N.K. Roerich took place in our house. Svyatoslav Nikolaevich and Devika Rani participated in them. The film was directed by Rollan Sergienko, the screenplay was written by Renita Grigorieva and Lyudmila Shaposhnikova, the cameraman was Oleg Martynov. The crew of the film crew was very friendly, sincere, aspiring," L.S. Mitusova wrote in the book "About the past and the fate of loved ones.".
Prizes and awards:
- 1973: All-Union Film Festival, Alma-Ata - Prize for the best cinematography ("The Life and amazing Adventures of Robinson Crusoe", 1972)
- 1992: The International Film Festival of Slavic and Orthodox Peoples "Golden Knight" - Prize for the best cinematography ("Boys", 1990)
- 1993: Golden Aries Award - For the best cinematography ("Dislike", 1991)
- 2018: Winner of the Nicholas Roerich International Prize
Films about H.P. Blavatsky are based on autobiographical sources:
Sylvia Cranston "H.P. Blavatsky", Howard Murphy "Elena Blavatsky", Mary Nef "Personal Memoirs of H.P. Blavatsky, Oleg Boldyrev "Messenger of Shambhala. Blavatskaya.", Henry Olcott " Pages of an old diary.", "Letters of Blavatsky", "The Occult World of Blavatsky", etc
"Beauty Is the Garment of Truth. H.P. Blavatsky". Chapter 1, 2
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"Beauty Is the Garment of Truth. H.P. Blavatsky". Chapter 3
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"Beauty Is the Garment of Truth. H.P. Blavatsky". Chapter 4
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"Beauty Is the Garment of Truth. H.P. Blavatsky". Chapter 5
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"Russia, Russia, Keep yourself, keep yourself!"»
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"Signs of the way. America."
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Tibet - Kailas. The radiance of being.
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"The power of light."
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E. M. Shaboornikova: Now we move on to the main part, which I was waiting for very much, in any case, it is the main one for me, because now we are all together, in a large group work, trying to create a single thought image that will be woven from everyone's consciousness, acquiring a separate shining facet. The Secret Doctrine will help us, of course, to weave this image. At the second Congress, we discussed Stanza I, Shloka 1. At this Congress, it is the same Stanza, Shloka 2. It is unique, it speaks about time and duration, Helena Petrovna already gives an understanding of Logos in it. This is very important, because the previous speaker spoke about birth and Creation, but there is a lot of confusion, because the Secret Doctrine is not studied deeply, and it gives a fundamental description of forms, States, milestones and Laws. First there was the first creation, then the second creation. And birth, sorry, occurs only on the Plane of manifestation. So, Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, the Secret Doctrine, the first volume. I give the opening speech to the honorary guest of the Congress, Vilena Sanjeevna Dylykova-Parfionovich. Vilena Sanjeevna, we are waiting for the continuation of your book, because all your transcripts and translations are, of course, a unique work, this is the esoteric essence of any teaching including the Secret Doctrine. Thank you, we are listening to you!
V. S. Dylykova-Parfionovich: I'll start with an explanation. The thing is that when we translate Tibetan texts, we always find people who write about Tibet and report new scientific data. From the very beginning, as soon as I took up Tibet, there were such personalities as Hungarian Choma de Kereshi, Helena Petrovna Blavatsky and Elena Ivanovna Roerich. My personal acquaintance with Yuri Roerich led me to the activities and results of the entire Roerich family. Therefore, I was interested in the question, how Elena Ivanovna and Helena Petrovna were connected with the Cosmic vision of the world. I found out on my own that at that time people had a huge interest in this issue, even those who, in general, had nothing to do with Oriental studies. Among them there was also a very gifted, now we can say it, brilliant scientist Choma de Kereshi. He was interested in where and how the Hungarians found themselves in Europe, so he left Hungary and went to look for the homeland of his fathers, passed through all Russia and ended up in Tibet. Where did Choma de Kereshi end up? It happened to be in the Himalayas, and I define this area as Darjeeling. Everyone who has managed to get to this area of India knows that this is a special place, where Indian civilization is directly connected with the Tibetan civilization, since the entire culture of the Tibetans, starting with writing and religion, is borrowed from ancient India. And here in the same place, in Darjeeling, but at slightly different times, there was Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, who was also led by an interest in India. She was a very capable person, let's put her directly among the Great women of our Land. This area was inhabited by preserved Mahatmas. They hid in the Himalayas after Buddhism was destroyed in India in the 12th century. And they have managed to hide and create until now. They needed students to pass on their knowledge. Because sooner or later their being on Earth may end. Thus, Choma de Kereshi, an enthusiast and a person interested in the problems of the origin of our planet, was on his way to Mahatmas. You know, they trained Choma de Kereshi as a tibetologist so well that he is now considered the founder of Tibetology. Moreover, I should note that all those around him who knew him, in general, treated him with contempt, reviled quite openly, calling him a madman. And so, imagine, this madman mastered the Tibetan language to the extent that no one could master it at that time, I mean Europeans. Therefore, when the 200th anniversary of Choma de Kereshi was celebrated nowadays, it was a holiday for all the outstanding tibetologists of the world, and all the students who were going to study the Scriptures of the Tibetan Canon. I'm just explaining that the fame that has overtaken our two great women is very fair and revealing. As a person who has been engaged in Tibetan civilization for many years, I have read Elena Ivanovna's works on Buddhism quite widely and seriously, and I have not found a single mistake in them that I could find fault with. Elena Ivanovna had such a brilliant mind and such a brilliant pen that I congratulate you on that. In addition, Elena Roerich translated the works of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky. Due to the fact that I am engaged in Kalachakra Tantra, followers and fans of Helena Petrovna's works began to bring me various materials, including translations of Elena Roerich. Do you know what struck me? I was struck by the fact that I came across a scientific presentation of the Universe, that is what I specifically do, and it is set out in the "Secret Doctrine". Helena Petrovna, having encountered her Teacher in the Himalayas, struck him with her outstanding mind, so she was able to accept the teachings of Indian Mahatmas. Since I am specifically engaged in translating non-preserved Sanskrit texts about Kalachakra Tantra, I immediately noticed the difference in the presentation of materials and processes of our Universe. The fact is that the Kalachakra Tantra texts themselves have not been preserved and have not come down to us in Sanskrit, there are only some preserved commentaries, but they are not so intimate and close in content to the source that they are perceived as the original Kalachakra Tantra texts themselves. I was working on the first chapter, you can even call it a book, as the Chinese and those who are engaged in Chinese civilization usually do. And the first book was called "The Structure of the Universe". In this way, I entered the world of all researchers of the space that is close to us, together with the Roerich family, Helena Petrovna Blavatsky and the outstanding Choma de Kereshi. Even at that time, he partially translated a passage from the Kalachakra Tantra. You can imagine, so much time has passed, and I only deal with texts, work with dictionaries, and I saw what success the people have achieved, the ones who do not have an education in Oriental studies. I attribute this to their brilliant minds and outstanding abilities, which they were given, of course, by their parents. That time was a time of search, and these people were distinguished by extraordinary erudition, education, and efficiency, so they managed to grasp the entire system of our universe, and they did it successfully. I began to remember how I could have read what Helena Petrovna had presented. It wasn't in the Tibetan texts I was studying. And you know, I guessed that the Tibetan Canon has a continuation, it is also a huge Canon called Tanjur, it consists mainly of Tantras. Tantras are mystical tractates, a huge number. But they differ due to the fact that they are commentaries compiled and expounded by Indian pundits. So that it was, what Helena Petrovna Blavatsky translated and expounded from the words of her Teachers, it is an exposition of the summary of the commentator's tractate, in general, quite large and extensive. It is written by Indian Pandits of antiquity and is preserved in the Buddhist Canon called Tanjur. I can say this with sufficient evidence, since in my hands I have the Tibetan text of the Kalachakra Tantra, partially expounded, which is the basis of the Indian commentaries. I congratulate you on that. I will end with specific material related to the Kalachakra Tantra. The main character of Kalachakra Tantra is ADI Buddha, whom we call the Primordial Buddha. It is to him that the Shlokas are dedicated, since he is the most important person in Kalachakra Tantra. He, ADI Buddha, has no beginning or end, he is not associated with anything. He symbolizes compassion and emptiness. And he is known as Kalachakra. I translate this into Russian. Compassion is a method, the method in translation from Tibetan means "masculine". Emptiness in this text is translated as "wisdom "and means "feminine". Thus, the combination of method and wisdom gives us the image of Kalachakra as the Wheel of Time. In this case, Kala is the Sanskrit name for Time, expressing its relative aspect. And the word "chakra", which we translate as "wheel", expresses emptiness. Kalachakra, as the Deity depicted on all the tanks, along with his partner Goddess and consort, is the embodiment of Unity and proves that he is Eternal and beyond duality. I am quoting a passage in verse from the Buddhist Canon. These are comments on Kalachakra Tantra, which are contained in the same first volume, where I took all the texts related to Kalachakra Tantra. So you can trust me that I know how the Indian Pandits' commentaries on the sacred Tantras are composed. Finally, as always, I will tell you in detail what I do, so that when you buy these books, you can have a complete picture of the work I have done. I will give a literal translation from the Kalachakra Tantra: "Any person who has a true perfect imagination, like another, shares the nature, the essence of the three time periods of emptiness, or shunyata.". Transcript of this literal translation: "The fully completed, formed planet Rahu, which owns the planet Ketu, and its own constellation Scorpio, separated from the Milky Way constellation, the Moon, the planet Venus, and the constellation Mule." I will read you again a translation of sentence number six: "Atoms or minute particles of all kinds, moving into the center of empty space, into the middle of the sky, are equivalent to the paths of motion of the illusory dreams or the roads for the streams of illusory dreams." Decryption: "the perfect full Moon and the North Star saw the likeness of Saturn walking, stalking in the middle of the sky, sleeping or asleep." As you can see, the transcript is devoted to the structure of the Universe and the description of the planets. The literal translation refers to the Buddhist tractates, which set out the truths that the Buddhists put together in their tractates on Buddhist philosophy. I will also repeat that what I partially read yesterday and finish boring you with serious translations. Literal translation: "The all-knowing, contemplating and considering the three bad odors, are equally free from them and from disconcerting and disturbing thoughts." I attach here, to this literal translation, two versions of the transcript. The first option: "the perfect and all-knowing Mercury saw that the constellation of Ashlesh, the constellation of the Pleiades, the constellation of Virgo, as well as the fully formed planets Rahu and Ketu, represent the constellation of Mule." This is the first version of the decryption. The second version of decryption: "a perfect and omniscient Mercury, adopted or took Ashlesha constellation, or the constellation of Hydra, and the constellation of Pleiades, and separated Ketu which did not become fully real planet." Thank you for your attention.
Evgeniya Shaboornikova: Vilena Sanjeevna has now given us the basis for the reversal of space, or the Universe, which originates from the void. This is exactly what has not yet happened, the state that the first Stanza tells about. The first Stanza, the first Shloka, describes such an impulse of the "Mother Giving Birth", which is the universe, and which in the same way first creates and then gives birth. The second Shloka and the third Shloka and the subsequent Shlokas tell us about that what did not happen. But, please, look at the subtlety: telling about that what did not happen, Helena Petrovna gives in the comments a description of what will happen. And then we can use these energies and concepts associatively, in a comparative aspect. With your permission, Vladimir Vasilyevich, may I read the Shloka? We have a speaker today, a member of the Theosophical Adyar society, President of the Lodge “Adamant”, Vladimir Vasilyevich Yary. I will help. Shloka two: "THERE WAS NO TIME, IT RESTED IN THE INFINITE BOSOMS OF DURATION." Colleagues, we are waiting for comments and please, raise your hands. Who has prepared at home? Who has completed our homework for the year? There was a homework assignment a year ago - to study this Shloka during a year and tell us about your vision. Konstantin Alekseyevich, please.
K. A. Zaitsev: I want to say that in the first sentence, from the first words, the paradox is evident: "there was no time." "Was no" is a form of the past tense, and the question immediately arises, how can the category of time be applied to the absence of time? Recently we held a seminar dedicated to time at the Moscow Theosophical society, and we pointed out that when there is no time, there are no "first" and "then" intervals, and all scientific methods of knowledge cannot work, because any scientific method of knowledge is the science of causes and effects. And here we cannot approach this state in this way.
Evgeniya Shaboornikova: Thanks a lot. Do you have any opinion on the fact that we can say about Time that it "did not exist"? As soon as we say "it is", "it will be", or "it was", we are already talking about the category of time. You are welcome.
Dmitry: You know, the first Stanza, it describes the States associated with... well, this is my opinion, with the Plane of the Gods...
Evgeniya Shaboornikova: Excuse me, what's The Plane of?
Dmitry: In your drawing - with the Plane of the Absolute, it describes the states associated with the Plane of the Absolute.
Evgeniya Shaboornikova: We don't have a Plane of the Absolute yet, because the Absolute doesn't have a Plane.
Dmitry: Absoluteness, yes, it describes the state of Absoluteness at the beginning of the cycle, I correct it, thank you for correcting me. And Time, it seems to me so, that this category is finite, and since the Absolute is infinite, that means, there was no time, in this state it turns out, as if it were not present. It is not present because it is not infinite.
Evgeniya Shaboornikova: Thanks a lot. I think it's an interesting approach when we just take one word out of context, and then we find ourselves in a state of contradiction. But all contradictions disappear when we look at what is said next: "IT RESTED IN THE INFINITE BOSOMS OF DURATION." Time is always there, but it is manifested and unmanifested. "Rested" – it has not yet appeared. Time is the structure of potentiality, in the moment. And there is an eternal structure that is always present - the category of Duration. We have a man in the gallery holding his hand, please, give him a microphone. Please, introduce yourself.
E. A. Mironova: Yevgenia Alexandrovna Mironova, member of the St. Petersburg philosophical society. When it is sayd: "THERE WAS NO TIME", I just wanted to go back to the previous one, you can define it in one phrase: "this is a state of consciousness", but what it is, it needs to be deciphered. Well, the shortest phrase.
Evgeniya Shaboornikova: Thanks a lot. I would clarify this point, it is erroneous, because the category of consciousness begins exactly with the category of time. "THERE WAS NO TIME" because there was no consciousness to fix it. Please, Vilena Sanjeevna.
V. S. Dylykova-Parfionovich: Studying the book "the Practice of Kalachakra" by an American tibetologist, I was faced with the problem of space and time. And before translating his book "the Practice of Kalachakra", I presented an article on space and time in Tibetan Buddhism. I will not talk about the content, I will talk about the results. I came to the conclusion that both time and space are energy.
Evgeniya Shaboornikova: Thank you very much. Vladimir Vasilyevich, did you want to say? No? That’s all, thanks. Let's... Oh, please, Dmitry.
Dmitry: Excuse me, may I ask Vilena Sanjeevna about her conclusion? So you have come to the conclusion that time and space are energy, energy in its unmanifested form, do I understand you correctly?
V. S. Dylykova-Parfionovich: At a certain moment, sooner or later, the energy begins to manifest itself. If we are going to talk about the origin of our galaxy, then in Tibetan treatises the description usually begins with the fact that there was some kind of fluctuation. This fluctuation, which is indicated in the Tibetan language, in astronomical treatises and astrology, I defined as energy. Only later, after it was necessary to designate the time of the appearance of this energy specifically, then, according to Kalachakra Tantra, the concept of the year arose. This is the first definition of time in Kalachakra Tantra. I have just written and translated about this, and I can say very accurately that at certain times time disappears and time appears, and its definition always changes a little, because concepts do not stand still, but develop over time. Thank you.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Thanks a lot. Please, Sergey Pavlovich.
S. P. Roschupkin: I wanted to say about time a little bit from the physicist's point of view. For today, we actually consider that it is such an ephemeral value, on the one hand, it is not directly determined. We define it through cyclicity, there must be a cycle. Therefore, the lack of time can be understood that there was no cyclicity, and there were no fluctuations, as respected Vilena Sanjeevna said. This is the first. Second, I’d like to say that the law of conservation of energy is related to time in physics today. In fact, we can assume that time generates this concept of energy. There was a fine Leningrad physicist, Nikolai Kozyrev, who worked at the Pulkovo Observatory. He introduced the concept of the second dimension of time, and from his point of view, even the process on the Sun is no longer considered a thermonuclear reaction, but the burning of time. These are very interesting thoughts, so energy and time are very much related concepts, and there is no energy in the absence of time. The appearance of time generates energy. I've been very, very close with what you said dear Vilena Sergeevna. Thank you.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Thank you very much!
Vladimir Yary: Yes, may I speak?… Yevgeniya Mikhailovna… The fact is that there is the cycle, and there is also the energy of time, but where? "In the infinite Bosoms of Duration." And so Yevgeniya Mikhailovna said that we should fully perceive the Stanza itself, in its entirety. If we start separately, we will have such a paradox. But here, in the Stanza, everything is said: it also rested "in infinite Duration". What did rest? An impulse or vibration, because Duration itself is the Eternal Breath. And the reason for this Time that was at rest is a vibration, and this is, I would say, an esoteric side that cannot be determined in any way, but we can imagine it. And here imagination is just necessary, that is, a cause-and-effect relationship, because the cause-and-effect relationship is the cause of cyclic Breathing, there is already a cause in it, the causeless cause of everything. And this causeless cause of everything is, as they say, "IN THE INFINITE BOSOMS OF DURATION." Everything is already there, as a potency, which then becomes a noumenon and this noumenon becomes a phenomenon. And when the Time will come is when the phenomena will occur. Thank you.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Excuse me, I would like to clarify one point… When Sergey Pavlovich spoke about energy, he said there is no time, so there was no energy. Is it correct? Now I want to say this: we can't say that there was no energy, and there was no time. It was at rest, that is, it was unmanifested, energy and time were not manifested. This word is always missing, and this, I think, is an important clarification. Mikhail Nikolaevich, please.
Mikhail Nikolaevich: A small comment on this. The fact is that the appearance of all the formative forces, or, as they are called, the Sons of the Dawn of Manvantara, happens due to the manifestation of the cosmic law of periodicity. That is, the law itself began to work, and through it there was a reflection of this causeless cause, the Absolute. It is very difficult to understand, because of our own way of thinking and the possibility of knowledge – they are limited. The possibility of knowledge is associated with the Dharmas, with that what is given to the senses as light, sound and so on, for the mind these are the Dharmas, they are certain qualities, so they are still not ripe enough so that we can comprehend the action of the unmanifested time itself which begins to manifest because of the law. And it is also appropriate to say, so that we understand the whole context, that the first Stanza of the Secret Doctrine relates to the universal cosmogony, and the subsequent Stanzas, even in the first volume, relate to the Solar system, to its cycles. The second volume relates to human evolution. And this co-scale will help us to some extent approach these complex abstract concepts.
E. M. Shaboornikova: One moment, please, one comment about the law, which begins to act. You said that there was a causeless cause, that this was the law. If we are talking about causeless causality, then we cannot talk about any law at all, it is latent, and the law manifests precisely the cause, and not the causeless cause.
Mikhail Nikolaevich: ...when the law begins to work, of course, the cause begins to work.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Yes, yes, the cause, and then there appear Nidanas and a breathtaking wheel of Nidanas...
M. N. Chiryatiev: Yes, thanks to this law, Builders and forms are already appearing, the Second and Third Logoses are beginning to work, and so on...
E. M. Shaboornikova: Yes, Yes, Yes...
Vladimir Yary: One can add a little bit here.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Please.
Vladimir Yary: The Absolute law, this law of Absoluteness, has always been there. When we talk about the first Stanza of Dzyan, the law of Absoluteness as such exists, it exists invariably. The fact is that it did not fade, but it was in its corresponding inhale-exhale phase. This is a phase of partial Pralaya: we think that there is nothing there, but in fact there is a process, and we will never understand that process, because it is an absolute one. The process itself, it is always there, but in its own state, inaccessible to us. And this is the most important beginning of meditative understanding, which requires sense-knowledge, that is, intuitive thinking. The Secret Doctrine is the great practice of meditation, that’s what it is, this is the awakening of imaginative thinking. From letters we get syllables, from syllables we get sensations of consciousness – this is such an amazing thing, this is part of meditation - not sensations of the senses, but sensations of consciousness. If we continue to read, these sensations will be associated with clairvoyance, that clairvoyance is called the "eye of Dangma", which "feels". So, the first Stanza prepares us for this feeling in advance, prepares to enter into these states of primordial emptiness, which is the great absolute fullness. Therefore, reasoning about the Absolute as such is excluded, because we are nobody, but we are ready to enter into these states.
E. M. Shaboornikova: One small clarification about Pralaya. If we are talking about Pralaya, and we are talking about the beginning of Manvantara, or the dawn of Manvantara, the state before you wake up, which is described in the first two Stanzas, then we are talking about partial Pralaya, because there is no complete Pralaya, there is a partial Pralaya. Julius, please!
Yu. L. Golshtein: Thank you for the opportunity to speak on such a significant topic, the most significant and serious one. But first I’d like to say something else, here the person next to me said about the causeless reason. This is the purest and highest classic of spiritual philosophy, because the logic here is not Aristotelian, but multidimensional. In the Jain system, or in some other Buddhist systems, there is a seven-part logic, that is, it is a multidimensional system, where on the one hand it is seen as such, on the other hand, the conclusions seem to be completely contradictory to the first. And it is very important who exactly perceives, who is the original subject of perception, we must not forget about this. This should always be kept in mind in any higher research. Vladimir said very well, in relation to the highest classical knowledge, which I touch: indeed, it is impossible to know the Absolute by any logic. The timeless is not comprehended out of the temporary, even by the subtle temporary. But there are so-called secret possibilities, these are special states, states of Samadhi, Nirvikalpa Samadhi, even Savikalpa Samadhi - this is the maximum possible touch for a being of the human form.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Thank you very much, back to the first Stanza, Sloka two. Partial Pralaya, before there was no even time, much less the state of Samadhi. Lyubov Nikolaevna, please!
L. N. Mezenova: Dear Theosophists, let us clarify. We are talking about the first Stanza, and the Secret Doctrine, the first volume, is very clearly structured. The first Stanza speaks of the first Plane of Being, not of the Absolute, but of Absoluteness. The Absolute is the fourth Plane of Being, and Absoluteness is the first. And our esteemed guest said quite correctly to pay attention, where the Absoluteness was. It rested for Seven Eternities. Energy appears after the Seventh Eternity. Why not after the Sixth and not after the Fifth? Because there is an immutable law of changing the quality of space, about which Vladimir Vasilyevich said. When everything is ready, then comes the energy of Absoluteness, which passes, awakens the second Plane, the Plane of the Divine Mind, or the Paranishpanna of the Gods, the Nirvana of the Gods, as we call it. Just there a cycle appears, and while there is no Time, we can't fix it by our minds, because there are no even Gods yet and there is no their mind. They are in a potential state, the Divine Plane has not been manifested yet.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Yes, it will be shown again in the second Stanza. We will talk about the potentiality of the Divine Mind. Thanks. When we were talking about the cycles, Sergey Pavlovich, I think you were the first to say that when there are the cycles, everything starts. If there is no cycle, nothing starts. The cycle is always here, so there is only a partial Pralaya. If there were a full Pralaya and not a partial one, we would not be able to discuss it, there would be nothing to compare it with. And we are in a cycle. There is a cycle when consciousness is awakened, Time begins, Manvantara begins, and there is a cycle when it just dies down, but it is eternal, this cycle, and this eternal cycle is called Duration.
V. V. Yary: It is good when the Secret Doctrine is systematized, which was done by the Kemerovo school, by Vladimir Anatolyevich Bakanov, it is so easy to enter into meditation, when there is a method. And with this method, some special wisdom is gained. It is correct to say that the great sages never spoke about Absoluteness, or about the Absolute itself, because this is spirit-matter, this is the fourth Plane, The Plane of Prototypes, where there is the Absolute in the form of Parabraman and Mulaprakriti, male and female, spirit-matter. And we are now just considering the category of Absoluteness. It is instructive that we have this system of Planes of Being, that the Secret Doctrine is systematized, then at least we can produce images, not to mention these high concepts. Absoluteness is the thinnest matter for human perception, it is his ceiling.
E. M. Shaboornikova: I'd like to get to the Comments. We were now in Dzian itself, and this is correct, but then there are Comments to it by Helena Petrovna herself. You know, there is a method that has been tested by the school of theosophy, and by various Theosophists who accept group work in the study of the Secret Doctrine: being in the Dzyan Stanza itself, in all these energies, and taking pure concepts, we then go to the Commentaries. That is, first there is a focus, and then a certain differentiation, when we start collecting conceptual images from the Comments. That is, first there is one, according to the Secret Doctrine, then there is a division into the concepts that Helena Petrovna gives us in the Comments. And then it is very useful to go back from the Comments to the Dzian itself, to the pure Shloka, and reflect there. Then all the concepts that we collected in the Comments begin to play with other facets. I have a suggestion to follow the Comments. Helena Petrovna writes: "If there is consciousness, there is time, there is illusion." That is, there are three steps, three aspects. It is said that the present is a mathematical line. This mathematical line of the present is the eternal duration between the past and the future. And here there is a geometric image, it is simple: there is a certain emptiness, a circle, and there is the very mathematical line that is the present. It divides space into the past and the future. In one aspect and in the reflection of it. You can look the other way around: then the future will be on top, and the past will be on the bottom. When it all merges together, divide this Plane, connect, then you will have one mathematical line, this is an infinite Duration. Helena Petrovna then begins to talk about aggregates, what is an aggregate? There is a comment: "all changing and different states from the moment of appearance in material form to the disappearance of the Earth." And these aggregates exist forever: in the future they pass gradually through the states of space through the matter in order to exist in the past forever. If you can, let's think about this topic, I think it's very interesting. As a result, to get this mathematical line, or linearity, two Eternities, the past and the future, must merge together, and only in one of them true existence is possible. So we say that time is finite and Duration is infinite, but space exists even where there is nothing else. Space exists even when there is nothing, there is not yet that mathematical line that is present, Duration, and this smooth transition from the future to the past, where the past is another eternity. Your feedback.
V. S. Dylykova-Parfionovich: Let us remember that India is the birthplace of mathematics. Therefore, I will now only talk about numbers, without going into definitions of what is emptiness, what is completeness, and what is the Absolute. Because everything starts from zero, then there is a unit, I'm talking about the symbolism of numbers, and according to this symbolism, with adding each unit all the time there is a process that can be defined as energy. Can you imagine? I speak quite clearly, since I have been in contact with physicists for a long time due to the fact that, while studying the Galaxy, one must necessarily learn physics. When I came to the number "3", it became clear to me that "3" is the main number in the tractates of the Indian Pandits, and in our understanding of the universe. If we add three more to three, we get the number" 6". The number "6" is the basis of the yoga practice of Kalachakra Tantra, namely the number "6". This is called six-part yoga. If we multiply the number "6" by two, we get the number "12". If we add six more to the twelve, we get "18". But if we add three more to the six, we get a "9". "9" is the number of so-called planets, that is, to understand our Galaxy, there were main planets enough, of which there were "6", but still for completeness it was necessary to add three more. Therefore, the planets Rahu and Ketu appeared, which really should not be considered. If we turn to the famous number three sixes, three times six gives just this combination of "666", which we call magical and associated with all negative ideas. If we look at how many days the great battle of Kurukshetra lasted, that's 18 days, that's two times nine. You see, if we study very carefully all the numerology laid down in the Mahabharata, we will be able to understand the whole process very briefly and accurately, from the point of view of mathematics. This process was based on the understanding of an Indian mathematician who discovered a sequence of numbers from zero to ten, and this discovery fit all further astronomy, physics and other exact Sciences. But we must also remember that there is such a thing as a point. Not a line, but a dot.
E. M. Shaboornikova: We'll get to the point now. Here's another line unfolded, Vilena Sergeevna. Thank you. Continuing the idea about numbers and numerology, saying that from zero there is differentiation to the infinity of numbers. I‘d like to draw attention to the fact that the zero state, or the very point of zero, is a Single True Essence that passes into each number. Each number contains a zero. And this zero defines this linearity at infinity. This is the state of zero. Helena Petrovna, after describing aggregates or linearity, gives already the concept of Logos in the first Shloka. Let's look at the state of Logos. The point is transformed, the very state from which everything begins. This linearity, or mathematical line, which is the true Duration, exists when there was no Manvantara, no beginning. And the point appears exactly when the Three come together in unity. When we see the dot, there are already the Three. If you and I drew a line, there are already seven, this is the movement of the Ray. Helena Petrovna speaks of the first Logos as a point that, while passing through, gives a display of the next Plane in the space, reaches the next state of concentration. The first Logos, which is the Unmanifested, is followed by the second Logos. And the most interesting thing is that in the next Plane, in its display and continuation of movement, the dot gives the first duality. And we can see the geometric surface of the Third Logos. This is Mahat. Are there any comments? We have ten to fifteen minutes to finish the discussion of the first Shloka. And I would like to parse the concept of Devachan, that's with what E. P. B. finishes up the Comments for Shloka two of Stanza one.
K. A. Zaitsev: This is a small comment on the previous one. Indian mathematicians did introduce the number "zero" into mathematics, but in India there are two concepts for the number "0": "Shunyam", and there is also such a mystical number "Purnam". The first is emptiness, and the second is fullness. And it's like an unspeakable number. And when we talk about infinite Bosoms, maybe something is connected with this. Maybe it's just the zeros that make a million out of one. This is not the zero that is "nothing", but the one which on the contrary multiplies everything and makes it complete.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Yes, this is a transient state. Therefore, this zero is in every number. We are not talking about figures now, because figures are forms of numbers, and we are talking about numbers. This is the divine essence of figures. A figure is an external form, it is mathematics. The great geniuses of mathematics discovered numbers, and each number is a movement of the Divine Essence, these are other concepts. These are Theosophical concepts that are given in the Secret Doctrine. And about fullness and emptiness. We know that Helena Petrovna says that emptiness does not exist in the space, because every emptiness is a complete completeness. There is a concept of complete completeness - that it is emptiness. And this is an apparent paradox, but it is a single concept. This is mapping. I can see that Ritva wants to say something. Give her a microphone, please.
Ritva Lappi: I could say a lot. I won't comment much. It seems to me that time is long intervals of thoughts, and separate moments in space. And when we can stop our flow of thoughts, then time disappears for us. I wouldn't comment too much here, I just want to thank you very much for your performances. And especially to say thank you, Vilena Sanjeevna. You have a real diamond of knowledge. Thanks!
V. S. Dylykova-Parfionovich: I'm talking about the definition of emptiness, according to the Kalachakra Tantra. Why do they say that there is no emptiness as such, because they assume that something always and constantly disappears somewhere. So what disappears, appears in that what we call emptiness. Therefore, there is no emptiness as such.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Thank you very much. Description of Devachan. "There is no past - the Ego would remember it with regret. There is no future - the Ego would dream of it. But there is a state of bliss, everything is present in the present moment. There are no ideas or concepts about time. Everything seems to be a live and vivid dream, indistinguishable from reality." Helena Petrovna finishes Shloka two with this description of Devachan. I would like to ask our distinguished colleagues to comment on what they think. What is there where there is no past? The ego would remember it with regret... And there is no future, the ego would dream of it, it is a state of bliss. Try. Let's raise our hand first, then ask for permission. Then you are allowed. I beg.
Y. L. Golshtein. Thanks. I see that the question is very difficult to answer, for a real answer. Now, the Ego as a structure that is illusory in itself does not exist. It can only be seen as existing within the time frame of the past and future. Here is the answer.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Thanks a lot. You had some comments, you raised your hand, I'm sorry, I didn't give you word. Give the microphone that way, please. Introduce yourself.
Alexander Grigoryevich: Alexander Grigoryevich, Saint Petersburg. I raised my hand when we talked about time in the beginning, and to say about time, I would like to read the Shloka. May I? "There was no time. It rested in the infinite Bosoms of Duration." When I read it alone, I read it in silence. If we talk about time, about this Shloka, it is unpredictable. And when we talk about it, we talk as individuals, because that's how we were born, to communicate as individuals. But there are things that a person can't say. And in silence, we can only transmit this information through the vibrations of the heart.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Thank you very much. When we talk about the beginning, as you say, we should do it in silence, it is there that this sense-knowledge arises. When we talk about Unpredictability, it is the Absolute that is not predictable. And time, sorry, time is predictable, because it is illusory. And we are just talking about this illusion, identifying the cause. Therefore, there are the Planes of Being, structured ones, Lyubov Nikolaevna sent us there, very clearly. No, there are three Planes of the Spirit outside of Forms, the first three of which are indescribable, and all the others are predictable. Do you know why? Because Helena Petrovna gave the "Secret Doctrine", she dedicated it to all true Theosophists in order to make time predictable. Because it is an illusion. The indescribable is only Eternity and the Absolute.
Alexander Grigoryevich: We need to talk about time, I said it right away. And I’d like to add that what this Shloka ends with, the last line, the last sentence. "And these two eternities constitute the Duration, the only one in which everything has a true existence, if only our senses were capable of perceiving it." That's what Helena Petrovna is talking about. That is, whether we are ready to accept.
E. M. Shaboornikova: The fact is that there are no feelings on these Planes. The feeling will come later. The senses, as a pranic state of mind, are from the Plane of the Gods, which is second to the Plane of the Spirit beyond Forms. It will be displayed in the first seven-ray star. And the very Jew we talked about at the beginning of our conversation will be reflected in a six-ray star, will give it duality, or the very prana, of which the Material and Educational Plane consists. And it will give, the same feeling - subtle astral, which gives its reflection on the manifested plane. These feelings are in question. Of course, this Plane we are talking about is beyond the feeling. That is, there are three Planes of the Spirit outside of Forms - there are no feelings there. Are there any other comments? Mikhail Nikolaevich, please.
M. N. Chiryatiev: Nevertheless, what you have said, speaks of regret at the same time. You know, I have such an association: in "Living Ethics", and in the comments on Living Ethics, which to some extent are "Facets of Agni Yoga", it is often said that the past cannot be changed, but the future can be changed. And now, when you spoke about dreams, it is just the future that is being changed now, changed by our thoughts. And even at this moment, we are also creating this future, even talking about the past. Another point is quite important in the context of what we are saying. Every object that exists and every phenomenon is a cross-section of Infinity. Because they touch Infinity at the beginning and at the end. But any object and any external phenomenon are finite. But its constituent elements are infinite. This is very important, because it leads consciousness to the Infinity of life itself, to eternity, and to the relativity of the world of phenomena. Because even when we talk about time, we speak from the position of three-dimensional consciousness, because in the subtle world time is already completely different. Because we need to move away from this three-dimensionality, and spatial three-dimensionality, and three-dimensionality of consciousness, first of all. In general, Elena Roerich called this view of multidimensionality from the perspective of three-dimensionality "dog psychology".
Vladimir Yaryi: I would also like to support the idea that time is a substance of the fourth Dimension, time itself. And if we really use our three-dimensional consciousness to talk about this substance of time, then we will always be in the illusion of this image, because we will not make it up in reality, we will not make it up for our awareness. Therefore, we must first enter the state of four-dimensionality, and we are called there, to this Subtle World, so that we must accept it. And for this purpose we are given just the Dzian Stanzas. They prepare us to enter this state of timelessness, when we are like zero. We must become like this zero, this white disk on the black background. This is the first point, then there will be a second point, then there will be a third point. And these are the degrees of reflection of our spirit, this is memory. So, when we begin to enter the fourth dimension, in other words, to become a friend of time, we have conquered the consciousness of separation by the consciousness of unification. That is, the synthesis appeared. As soon as synthesis occurs, time frees us. That is, it is no longer a jailer, but a teacher and friend, the time itself. And so the fourth dimension is defeated by the fact that we are just coming out, or becoming, creators. Because only synthetic thinking allows you to do this, that is, duality disappears. When duality disappears, past and future, they are created together, in the now. And this is compared with the state of Devachan. Because in Devachan just such a state exists in a person when he has no past, when he sees everything in the present and everything in the present is transformed before his eyes. All the future is happening now in him. And so for him, as if there is neither future nor present, but there is that time cycle of birth on Earth again, this is the state. So Helena Petrovna compares this state with Devachan.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Thanks a lot. Please, Sergey Vitalievich.
S. V. Kolganov: Thanks. I’d like just to remember from the perspective of the history of philosophy that there was such a wonderful Christian thinker, Augustine the Blessed. He thought about the problem of time for a long time, and he had this insight. It is in the fact that he didn’t devide time into past, present and future, and he talked about the present past, the present present and the present future. Why? Because for finite beings, for people, really there is a past, a present, and a future. And for God, there is only one continuous present. And so, when a finite being joins this state, it is such a sampling, he falls into one infinite present and, accordingly, for him there is neither one nor the other, the person is in a God-like state. So, from the point of view of history of philosophy, this is how it can be interpreted.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Thank you very much. Lyubov Nikolaevna, please.
L. N. Mezenova: Thanks. It's about Devachan. This is a very interesting state. And Helena Petrovna has a lot of materials about Devachan, she describes it in detail. We must understand that Devachan is a certain Plane, a certain state of consciousness. First, this Plane is sevenfold, and after death, after the transition, we can get into any of the sevenfold of this Plane. Second, when consciousness separates and enters Devachan, it experiences three distinct stages: the growth of spiritual accumulations, the peak of experiencing these spiritual accumulations, and then the extinction of these spiritual accumulations. That's when the extinction occurs, the law of Karma comes into force, which makes it possible, as they say, to form a spiritual consequence of the previous incarnation. Buddhism compares this state to a bird that hatches eggs, that is, hatches a fruit, or consequence. And only then does the law of Karma enter, and the power of Tanha - the desire to live - arises, and the consciousness again goes to incarnation, collecting all its skandas, or attributes of personality, and incarnates on the planet Earth. So the Plane of Devachan is very interesting. There are separate topics on this plane. They were heard at seminars. Thanks.
V. V. Yary: But we must still refer Devachan to the state. It is certainly on one of the Planes. But this is a state. The state of the present. This state is like this.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Konstantin Alekseyevich, please, and we will finish.
K. A. Zaitsev: Yes, from the previous speech, which was well-reasoned, it is quite clear that everything is fine with time on subtle planes. Accumulations take place, etc. The Mahatmas' letters also refer to these worlds as to the "worlds of consequences." So I would not say that there is no time for subtle planes. There is Karma there, it also works. And Daniil Andreev, by the way, described time as a separate dimension, described that there are dimensions of space, and there is a dimension of time. He suggested that there might be more than one of them.
E. M. Shaboornikova: We did not say that there is no time in the subtle plane. On the subtle plane, there is not only time, there is already a lot of other things, there is all nature already. We talked about the Planes of the Spirit outside of Forms, there is no time there. This is Duration, it gathers on the Plane of Prototypes, and from there time begins. When the state of Devachan is just fading then this first differentiation begins. Of course, time already exists on the subtle plane, and nature is already there.
Vladimir Yary: The fact is that Devachanic state contains the principles of time. This is how the principles of time differ - only by the same cyclicity. There is a cycle of maturation, then maturity, fading, that is, there are such cycles, this is causality. The cause of time is cyclicity.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Please, George Georgievich, your comment.
G. G. Hmoorkin: Thank you, some words literally. First, I support the participant in the fact that you can refer to the letters of Elena Ivanovna and to the "Living Ethics" about Devachan. The second point about time is that on the subtle planes, space-time categories undergo extremely serious transformations. It is enough to take the classic work of Raymond Mody on the condition of the people who returned after clinical death. They write that everything is completely different there. Not as we perceive on the earth plane, where there is the past, the present and the future time – it’s a kind of linearity there. It's completely different there. And the third point, the concept of Devachan is not introduced by theosophy, or living Ethics, it is not a discovery of the late nineteenth century. These concepts can be found in Buddhism from the fourth to fifth centuries AD. This is the Tibetan word - here Vilena Sanjeevna will not let me lie - Dewachen, or Debachen is a Tibetan word which is the translation of the Sanskrit "Sukhavati". If anyone is interested to find out how the state of Devachen is viewed by Buddhism, and quite ancient one, then you can simply use the word "Sukhavati" to find a description. This is the tradition of far-Eastern Mahayana Buddhism, Pure Land Buddhism, Amitabha Buddha, etc. Here getting into these spheres of Amitabha Buddha is getting into Devachen, although, of course, this tradition cannot be absolutized, because after all, over time, Buddhism imposes certain imprints. That’s all. Thanks.
E. M. Shaboornikova: Thank you very much. Dear friends, let's go back for one second to the Dzian Stanza itself. Let’s sum up. "There was no time. It rested in the infinite Bosoms of Duration." And so we talked about it for almost two hours. The next is Shloka, which we will deal with at the next Congress. We are finishing the Congress in Saint Petersburg. We are currently implementing the project "Competition of Russian cities". And our Congress starts traveling through the central part of Russia, and it returns to Moscow in 2023. Therefore, we will wait for you and travel with you. And next year, we will be analyzing Shloka three. "There was no Universal Mind. For there was no Ah-Hi to contain it." A year is enough, let's be diligent students. We are waiting for discoveries. We are waiting for scientific research. Thank you so much for your brilliant knowledge, for this profound understanding that you showed the Theosophists today, Vilena Sanjeevna Dylykova-Parfionovich. Thank you.
